Focus?

[jovick]

Well, Now that I'm lvl 27, all of my essential skills are maxed. Normally an archer would put the remaining 9 sp in Focus. But I'm wondering if using those 9 points in arrow blow would be more useful then having an extra 9 avoidability. (compared to 187% dmg of lvl 10 AB)

[Julliant]

Focus, there is absolutely no point in getting 2 attacks.

If you choose to go FA-less in the 2nd job, you have more leftover SP to max Focus for an awesome 20 avoidability.

[jovick]

Lol, Yeah I guess so. Thanks for your advice.

[MagicalBow]

Quick question that is related, but I don't see the need of a new thread.
If you get FA, is it possible to drop max PKB and max Focus instead with the 150 second SA/Booster build?
I'm thinking:
20 Mastery
30 Arrow Bomb
30 FA
15 Booster
5 SA
11 Focus (maxed)
10 PKB

Would this build work or am I better off with PKB?

[slightlyoddguy]

Quick question that is related, but I don't see the need of a new thread.
If you get FA, is it possible to drop max PKB and max Focus instead with the 150 second SA/Booster build?
I'm thinking:
20 Mastery
30 Arrow Bomb
30 FA
15 Booster
5 SA
11 Focus (maxed)
10 PKB

Would this build work or am I better off with PKB?

First of all, I wouldn't recommend getting FA.

If you still decide to however, yes, that build will work fine. It would probably be better just to drop those 10 PKB points and put them into SA/Booster though.

[Theisis]

I hate PKB and I hate foucs but I have 9 in it. I removed my regular arrow function and just but arrow blow so I possibly get a final attack.

Final attack is really good on non mobbable monsters. It's sort of useless in huge mobs. Good reason why I train on gollems.

[jovick]

Hmmm, I've always wondered about FA...I've heard its proven to do less damage over time, but seriously you don't get many chances to really hold down DS. What I really want to know is how fast is FA pulled off?

[MagicalBow]

It's really fast. Off memory, I think that the FA arrow is fired before your original attack hits (assuming you're using your range).
Also, I don't see a point in doing Booster/SA instead of Focus. Focus gives better bonuses at higher levels, whereas SA and Booster just increase time (and cost for Booster). It screws up the 150 second thing too.

[slightlyoddguy]

It's really fast. Off memory, I think that the FA arrow is fired before your original attack hits (assuming you're using your range).
Also, I don't see a point in doing Booster/SA instead of Focus. Focus gives better bonuses at higher levels, whereas SA and Booster just increase time (and cost for Booster). It screws up the 150 second thing too.

Well, I recommended taking those points off PKB, not focus. That would allow you a 200 second booster and a 300 second SA.

The thing is, with PKB at such a low lvl, you'll find yourself just not using it because of its low chance of success.

[MagicalBow]

I see...
Do you use PKB a lot? I've seen it once and that was from a lvl 11x or something Ranger using it to own Green Mushrooms -_-.

[slightlyoddguy]

I see...
Do you use PKB a lot? I've seen it once and that was from a lvl 11x or something Ranger using it to own Green Mushrooms -_-.

I used it quite a bit at jr. yetis, and I still use it pretty often at lusters now.

It's really a matter of playing style... Say for example, you just jumpshooted towards a luster pixie. When you land, you're right in front of it, and you don't have room to shoot. If you have PKB, the best option would be to knock it back, and then shoot again until it dies. If you don't have PBK, you could either run backwards and shoot it from there, or jump over it and shoot it from behind.

I've heard it becomes less useful in 3rd job, when you have so many other options to choose from, but I can't say anything from experience.

Anyways, PKB will become useless in 4th job, so you should take that into account. I'd try to get as many points into Booster/SA that I can, because while FA and PKB eventually become useless, you'll be using SA and Booster forever.

EDIT: Btw MagicalBow, are you strless?

[MagicalBow]

Ehh, I still think FA is useful. Makes getting to level 70 a lot easier (on the brain) and I like the damage. I just hate using the same move over and over and seeing it over and over. FA adds a little chance to it (though sometimes I wish I didn't have it).
No, I'm not STRless. Have no clue what gave you that idea >.>

[slightlyoddguy]

No, I'm not STRless. Have no clue what gave you that idea >.>

Heh, ever heard of the 'Bow of Magical Destruction'? It's the highest lvl bow that doesn't require any str. I thought you might've named yourself after that.

[Julliant]

I use PKB a lot. Extremely useful - don't say it isn't unless you've reached a high level.

Focus is great and I wish I had maxed it.

FA - I just like the shooting stance.

[slightlyoddguy]

I use PKB a lot. Extremely useful - don't say it isn't unless you've reached a high level.

Focus is great and I wish I had maxed it.

FA - I just like the shooting stance.

Ah, when I said it eventually becomes useless, I was referring to 4th job. I think everyone can agree that dragon pulse will replace PKB.

EDIT: Heh, I just read my previous post and it said the same thing, so this one sounds kinda dumb... But, do you agree that dragon pulse will replace PKB Julliant? I figured it would.

[MagicalBow]

If it's too late for me to take out FA, would you recommend me to get PKB or Focus?
And my name was just something I made up randomly >.>

[slightlyoddguy]

If it's too late for me to take out FA, would you recommend me to get PKB or Focus?
And my name was just something I made up randomly >.>

I'd recommend PKB. You'll still have one point left over to put into focus, and you'll be able to max PKB. 10 more PKB'd be more useful than 10 points of avoidability.

[Julliant]

On the contrary, I'd say max Focus. Un-maxed PKB is just pointless with such a low success rate.

PKB may be replaced but how long do think you would take to reach Lv 120?

And I'm keeping PKB for coolness sake.

[MagicalBow]

One last quick question...
At your level Julliant, can you KB the monsters without PKB or is it really hard?

[slightlyoddguy]

On the contrary, I'd say max Focus. Un-maxed PKB is just pointless with such a low success rate.

PKB may be replaced but how long do think you would take to reach Lv 120?

And I'm keeping PKB for coolness sake.

Heh, I hate to continue this debate, but just to clarify, I mean that maxed PKB and 10 Focus would be better than maxed Focus and 10 PKB. Of course, that will only be true until lvl 120, when it'll be the other way around.

That's referring to the build Magical posted before btw.

[Julliant]

Unless you have extremely godly equipment, you'll have a hard time knocking high level monsters away for space.