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pyrofyr
21st May 2007, 04:36 AM
This crap shouldn't exist.

If you dislike someone, you take that crap to PMs.

Having an existing section/subsection like this simply encourages flaming, and should not exist. It seems as if every new person that comes along gets a topic made of them.

We're supposed to be like a family, not like some sort of group with a high standard for acceptance.

Therefore, I request closure of this area, and flaming/trolling be taken into a more serious effect.

Cheez
21st May 2007, 04:40 AM
Stop flaming the hot sands, they'll turn to glass D:<

PhoenixRider
21st May 2007, 04:41 AM
This crap shouldn't exist.

If you dislike someone, you take that crap to PMs.

Having an existing section/subsection like this simply encourages flaming, and should not exist. It seems as if every new person that comes along gets a topic made of them.

We're supposed to be like a family, not like some sort of group with a high standard for acceptance.

Therefore, I request closure of this area, and flaming/trolling be taken into a more serious effect.

thank you, I want people PMing me about their problems with me, not blasting me and other out like this.

HotSand is starting to piss me off, we shouldnt be having a damn war in our own forum, start PMing people if you have problems or it will turn people away from the forum =/

pyrofyr
21st May 2007, 04:45 AM
Don't start coming into this topic by mentioning other people, whether they are people you dislike or not.

Don't try and say support something and then the next second go against it, please.

PhoenixRider
21st May 2007, 04:55 AM
Don't start coming into this topic by mentioning other people, whether they are people you dislike or not.

Don't try and say support something and then the next second go against it, please.

Im not, im just putting people names who have been being flamed recently, im not against anyone, just examples ^^, I edited it if you like.


but seriously,Hot sand needs to die.

CountessZero
21st May 2007, 05:05 AM
Hot Sands exists so we can air our grievances in an area away from the main forum.

Besides, the mods see the threads here and know who the lynch mob has in its sights. Another forum I used to go to had something similar. Worked a treat, all the idiots were named and shamed and then banned.

I vote we keep it. Because honestly, do you want massive flaming rows in the main forum? Everyone has to vent occasionally. Here's a good place.

PhoenixRider
21st May 2007, 05:08 AM
Hot Sands exists so we can air our grievances in an area away from the main forum.

Besides, the mods see the threads here and know who the lynch mob has in its sights. Another forum I used to go to had something similar. Worked a treat, all the idiots were named and shamed and then banned.

I vote we keep it. Because honestly, do you want massive flaming rows in the main forum? Everyone has to vent occasionally. Here's a good place.

I see your point... but this has become a war, and is not targeting people who should be banned but people others dislike and is being abused, people are making topics for something that can easily be resolved on PMs but are taking it public and are putting down forum members.

CountessZero
21st May 2007, 05:12 AM
PMing anyone about a problem will just make it worse. The mods will get flooded with PMs saying like 'OMG HE IS ASSHAT HE ARE FLAMMING ME' and I'm sure Wiggy and the rest don't want that.

Like I said, our grievances are out in the open. It doesn't encourage flaming either, topics about people who are acting like jerks flare up then die when either the jerkism stops or they get banned.

Of course, if the target responds to the flames, they're adding fuel to their own funeral pyre. But that's up to them.

There's some serious venom in this little board. Quite entertaining really.

And besides, these threads wouldn't exist if PEOPLE DIDN'T ACT LIKE TITS IN THE FIRST PLACE!

*PMT moment*

pyrofyr
21st May 2007, 05:15 AM
There is a major difference, when like what's happening now (And for around the past few months), mostly people who gain around 50+ posts.

Anyway, flames will not leak into the main forums, they need to simply be put to a stop altogether.

The jerk-ism as you say never stops, the person either ends up banned or leaving, and this is not the way to invite new people to a forum.

As for mods, mods shouldn't be PMed, the 'offender' should, in which case the mods have no problem.

People always have their little problems, infact I could name one for every single person here.

As for adding flames? If someone made a thread basically flaming you, would you not respond?

PhoenixRider
21st May 2007, 05:15 AM
hmm, i guess so...I dont know though =/

I hate debating with countess, she is so damn smart >=o

CountessZero
21st May 2007, 05:25 AM
Pyro, I try not to give people reasons to flame me >_> Being horribly reasonable, downright nice and the ability to mother people is a curse I have carried for years.

And Phoenix, lol <3 This is years of moderating on forums populated by leet speaking twits coming to the fore. I know I ain't a mod on here but moderating kinda sticks to you.

I dunno. I think the Cheez thing is getting out of hand. But where's Wiggy? Shouldn't she have stopped this? If it carries on Cheez and supalime are gonna kill each other.

pyrofyr
21st May 2007, 05:29 AM
Someone's a bit modest.

Yea, but see although it separates harsh feelings from the main forums, they still exist. Giving them their own area simply allows them to thrive without being thwarted. Prime example is that case at which both of you have already pointed out. :/

LT gamer
21st May 2007, 05:31 AM
Instead of suggesting they take it out, why not suggest that they make it where you can't flame other current users. I mean you could still flame hackers, dumbasses in game, etc.

CountessZero
21st May 2007, 05:31 AM
In my experience, teenage boys don't know when enough is enough.

Cheez and supa are both teens, I presume.

Add hostility and we have boom ._.

pyrofyr
21st May 2007, 05:34 AM
Don't get me started on flaming hackers, scammers, etc.

I take a firm stance in the no direction.

Cheez
21st May 2007, 06:08 AM
Cheez and supa are both teens, I presume.

Probably Supa. You've seen how he types, and you've seen how I type. If you really can't figure it out, maybe you should stop assuming things about people so much. That's what causes problems.

Zait
21st May 2007, 06:52 AM
I wonder how will Jed react when he see this thread o-o

LT gamer
21st May 2007, 06:55 AM
I wonder how will Jed react when he see this thread o-o

I'm more curious about how mork will react when he sees it. This is HIS self-proclaimed area anyways...

Son of Morkai
21st May 2007, 07:02 AM
Hot Sands exists solely so I can call someone a fugging moron and have all of HS see it without me needing the spam up a real thread. So... if you want me to spam up real threads... just say so. I'll be happy to get right on that and turn this place to ****.

Or... you can stay the hell out of my Hot Sands along with the rest of the undeserving jackasses.

The amount of pointless and stupid crap in here is starting to piss me off. Hot Sands should be read only except for licensed flamers. That way we get quality flaming without retardation.

Now get out.

Cheez
21st May 2007, 07:05 AM
I vote morkai be allowed to spam up real threads.

pyrofyr
21st May 2007, 07:25 AM
I vote Morkai to gtfo.

You see, people who only come to flame, and go somewhere else, like SW.

This place is for nice maplers who enjoy exchanging ideas based on MS, and occasionaly (Through Tomato Island) other things.

Although Hot Sands exist, they aren't meant solely to flame, but seeing as that obviously can't be fixed, it should be taken out.

As for Jed, well I've resolved issues I've had with him this way, and vice versa, and it worked out fine. I've done this with quite a few people here as well.

So if it's not taken down there should be a "Hot Sands Moderator" who isn't a total flaming fcktard.

Nekorion
21st May 2007, 07:31 AM
Logically no one wants to settle a problem in an adult manner. Screw that. We want to scream at each other like four years olds. This is the internet.

internet?
this is caketown

Ash
21st May 2007, 08:57 AM
Why do these changes have to take place when I'm around?
Of course you have an accepted point, but some people *Cough* Inderpaul* are just too much of a pain to settle it diplomatically.
I've actually wondered what was the point of Hot Sands myself, because when I first came here, it didn't strike me as a very common thing.

Wigum
21st May 2007, 09:09 AM
When it was first made, it worked quite well because it was a way for people to get over dramatic and vent about someone, or something. Like the julliant, hollywood arguement, or tehparwarrior battle. People didnt flame at the drop of a hat, and the forum bandwagon didnt really jump allover people.

It was a way to publically complain and flamee's didnt get completely defensive, and it kept the majority of the arguements out of the main forum.

It was a place that wasnt to be taken seriously, if someone was rubbing your pet peeves you voiced it, and all was good in the world.

Now a days, it seems that the forum bandwagon judges people far too fast. And a post is made about some person, and the rest of the forum jumps in and flames the hell out of him/her.

I havent been viewing this forum as much because being in rainbow street these forums typically don't get much moderation. I'll think about revising the rules to turn it back into just rants and such and good taste flaming.

I do think it helps in pointing out who are the people that are making waves on the forums. If someone is mentioned in here, i know to keep a better eye on them to make sure they're not disrupting our main forum life.

pyrofyr
21st May 2007, 10:11 AM
Thanks a lot Wigum, I'd have to say you could just look at the "Cheez" post to see quite a few of them.

It seemed like a flame-basket, and I've seen a few others recently, although not AS bad, pretty bad. Generally all towards people who just broke 50 or so posts...

PhoenixRider
21st May 2007, 12:47 PM
Hot Sands exists solely so I can call someone a fugging moron and have all of HS see it without me needing the spam up a real thread. So... if you want me to spam up real threads... just say so. I'll be happy to get right on that and turn this place to ****.

Or... you can stay the hell out of my Hot Sands along with the rest of the undeserving jackasses.

The amount of pointless and stupid crap in here is starting to piss me off. Hot Sands should be read only except for licensed flamers. That way we get quality flaming without retardation.

Now get out.

...who the hell are you, out of all my career in this forum I've never seen you, and you've just claimed HotSand for yourself? dude, get the fck out.

p.s: thanks Wigum, you were always the best mod here ;P ...*hopes other mods doesnt attack me* >.>

LT gamer
21st May 2007, 12:50 PM
...who the hell are you, out of all my career in this forum I've never seen you, and you've just claimed HotSand for yourself? dude, get the fck out.

Lol, he's been here longer than you. He only posted in the Broa HS thread, and here.

PhoenixRider
21st May 2007, 12:52 PM
oh, thats pretty weird ;/

masterchocobo
21st May 2007, 12:52 PM
Besides, he rarely uses the forum now; he does IRC.

LT gamer
21st May 2007, 12:59 PM
Besides, he rarely uses the forum now; he does IRC.

Yup, that's why you don't know him.

PhoenixRider
21st May 2007, 01:02 PM
even though I know nothing of IRC, imma take a wild guess and say its.....a forum? oh whatever, this man is weird non-the-less

Cheez
21st May 2007, 01:24 PM
You Lose!!

KindaMaybe
21st May 2007, 01:58 PM
I dont think Hot Sands is any worse then it was. When i argued with tehparwarrior for like 10 pages, it was much worse then the Cheez stuff. Now i do agree that jumping on new people and making a thread about them the first stupid post they make is a bit moronish, but i think we can all agree and Cheez and everyone in that thread is old enough to flame and be flamed without wanting to kill themselves after. I think we can also all agree that if Hot Sands was taken out, everyone would want to flame someone somewhere, and thats exactly why this place is here. And i dont know why people think this place is encouraging people to flame...its the most inactive part of the whole forum! When was the last time there was a new thread flaming a particular person that lasted more then 5 pages? Basically, i think this place is fine as is, and you need to stop overreacting, if you dont like Hot Sands, then dont go there...simple.

Nekorion
21st May 2007, 03:16 PM
even though I know nothing of IRC, imma take a wild guess and say its.....a forum? oh whatever, this man is weird non-the-less

IRC is internet chat relay. The chatroom for hidden street resides in one of the servers

Jedisbar
21st May 2007, 04:00 PM
Hot Sands exists so we can air our grievances in an area away from the main forum.

Besides, the mods see the threads here and know who the lynch mob has in its sights. Another forum I used to go to had something similar. Worked a treat, all the idiots were named and shamed and then banned.

I vote we keep it. Because honestly, do you want massive flaming rows in the main forum? Everyone has to vent occasionally. Here's a good place.



This could not of been said better.

I also like the fact that pyro and phoenix, both people generally hated around the shop, start this off. I would of expected this from cheez, though in hind sight as annoying as he is, he's mature enough to understand that hot sands has no meaning on the forums other than to let people deal with stuff in a way that keeps it under the eyes of the mod team.

Someone has a beef with you? If you take it to pm then we will assume that every complaint is as valid as the next from them about you; if it's known they have a problem with you, it carrys less weight(Generally speaking). But when it comes down to it, hot sands was made to keep the flaming in one area so it didn't run rampant around the forum like it used to.

Anyone that supports the no hotsands idea supports spaming.


Heil Morkai!

square
21st May 2007, 04:22 PM
Anyone that supports the no hotsands idea supports spaming.

I don't like that statement. Kind of a "if you're not with us, you're against us" oversimplifying thing.

In fact, I don't like any statement of the form "Anyone who [action1], [action2]". You've just put it the wrong way. If you had said "No Hot Sands means more spam" then I could've agreed, but willingly supporting spam is something else entirely.

Of course I realise this is not the issue here. It merely caught my attention somehow.

Saighan
21st May 2007, 05:40 PM
People need to understand that there is a clear distinction between a personal grieviance, and an all out troll.

Hot Sands used to be a place where the community could highlight a common nuisance and perhaps solve it. It is possible to have a thread here that's mature and intelligent (it has happened before), but it requires people to be of like thinking.

Recently it has become a personal one on one between a few people, and the place is degraded into a place where people just flame without any end in sight.

It's filled with people who can't accept that they are wrong, and people who can't be persuaded that other people are right. Sometimes when arguing is rather futile, some people just resort to flaming and can't just ignore the issue or let it go.

Last time we didn't have a direct choice in reading what we only like. Now we are given the luxury of the Ignore function. It's horrifyingly simple: You don't like the person's post, you ignore it.

And life goes on.

Ash
21st May 2007, 06:13 PM
So in other words, the only people who should be flamed in here are people like Inderpaul?

silverchao
21st May 2007, 06:40 PM
This is like the DMZ in Korea. You step in, you get shot.

Jedisbar
21st May 2007, 06:54 PM
I don't like that statement. Kind of a "if you're not with us, you're against us" oversimplifying thing.

In fact, I don't like any statement of the form "Anyone who [action1], [action2]". You've just put it the wrong way. If you had said "No Hot Sands means more spam" then I could've agreed, but willingly supporting spam is something else entirely.

Of course I realise this is not the issue here. It merely caught my attention somehow.

Indeed, but how often does that explain anything? Both your method of saying it and mine mean the same thing; yours is what is said every time, and ends up with a million pages of people going "nu it dun!", mine is an attempt to go another path to the same effect.

Saighan
21st May 2007, 07:40 PM
So in other words, the only people who should be flamed in here are people like Inderpaul?
That's what the criteria used to be.

abomination
21st May 2007, 08:06 PM
i agree that this shouldnt be here

metaphor:
your dad cheats on your mom
your mom finds out, crys a lil.. and calls her friend
her friend gets pissed and calls more and more friends.. who feel sympathetic...
~so in the end, it might look like this:
your dad comes home and finds 20 armed feminist who will do anytyhing to "flame" him
*if your a female, and if you feel sympathy on that ^ matter.. imagine it the other way around*

now.. i know im still a newb on this forum
but ill appriciate if a ADMIN would share the secret of why he\she made hot sands and why is it still here...

KindaMaybe
21st May 2007, 08:08 PM
That's what the criteria used to be.

I dont think thats fair, because if someone annoys me, but isnt forum-wide hated, then i cant post here about them? I think it should be people who annoy you, or people you just want to gripe about. But again, i agree that if a new person makes one stupid post, then give them a chance at least.

Saighan
21st May 2007, 08:34 PM
I dont think thats fair, because if someone annoys me, but isnt forum-wide hated, then i cant post here about them? I think it should be people who annoy you, or people you just want to gripe about. But again, i agree that if a new person makes one stupid post, then give them a chance at least.
Granted, perhaps that was too broad a classification.
On my part, I think that if the conflict is between/limited to certain individuals, then they shold be the only one who have any business in the thread at all, unless of course other people are affected by it.

The lynch mob mentality was fun, but it tends to get out of hand.
Flaming for flaming's sake gets real old real quick.

CaitSith
21st May 2007, 08:34 PM
i agree that this shouldnt be here

metaphor:
your dad cheats on your mom
your mom finds out, crys a lil.. and calls her friend
her friend gets pissed and calls more and more friends.. who feel sympathetic...
~so in the end, it might look like this:
your dad comes home and finds 20 armed feminist who will do anytyhing to "flame" him
*if your a female, and if you feel sympathy on that ^ matter.. imagine it the other way around*

now.. i know im still a newb on this forum
but ill appriciate if a ADMIN would share the secret of why he\she made hot sands and why is it still here...

Roffle! Truly a wise man! *Tips tophat for ye* ^_^

Saighan
21st May 2007, 08:37 PM
now.. i know im still a newb on this forum
but ill appriciate if a ADMIN would share the secret of why he\she made hot sands and why is it still here...

Of course, being the elitist that I am, stare increduluously at the prescence of someone who has barely been around here.

Jedisbar
21st May 2007, 09:18 PM
Me too, but I'll field it; because you can't stop flaming. No matter how hard you try, you can never get rid of it. Hot sands is where it goes. All of it. Flame somewhere else, you get told to take it here. This is the black hole of fire on these boards. I can remember a number of threads in general discussion that started with "I found this portal, but it doesn't work? Is it in the game?"(Or simliar) "It leads to aqua, but no it's not in yet". All good so far? "OMFG STFU! OF CORSE IT DUN GO NO WHERE IT NOT IN GAME YET NOOB!". 10 pages of pure flaming of a simple little question. Then there was charlie... oh boy charlie..

People wonder why I don't go to many area's of the board anymore; that's the reason.

Wigum
21st May 2007, 09:21 PM
So ultimately the questions become, what sort of posts do we want in hotsands, what can we get out of hot sands, and how do we bring it back to it's original intention, which worked quite well for quite a while.

I do enjoy hotsands, it gives me an easy way to see who's becoming an issue on the forum, without flooding my pmbox with HE SAID SHE SAID waahhhhhh stuff. So, it becomes incumbant on you guys to use hot sands for it's original purpose and not as a method to get the lynch mob on some nub that has no idea what is going on.

How's this as a brilliant idea, nub1 posts a few idiotic threads. Instead of being a jerk to him in his thread, and subsequently posting a topic here saying they're a nub, you pm them, explain (nicely) what is going on, and direct them into my south perry intro thread for a quick description of what to post where.

At that point if they still are being nubbish, Pm me, and i will take a look and talk to them. At which point if the nub still is doing wrong, and i highly doubt they will be, more invasive action can be taken.

But i must say, you guys are all pretty harsh when a newcomer enters the forum. You take perverse delight in being as mean as possible when telling them where to post and what they're doing wrong.

Lighten up, it's a forum, for a game. Remember your nubbish days. YOU TOO ONCE WERE HOT SANDS MATERIAL.

edit: also leave my morkie alone.

Saighan
21st May 2007, 09:25 PM
Lighten up, it's a forum, for a game. Remember your nubbish days. YOU TOO ONCE WERE HOT SANDS MATERIAL.

edit: also leave my morkie alone.
I avoided committing forum pariah by lurking around and getting the feel of the current.
Why can't people do that anymore?

I did try PMing one or two newbs who were making a nuisance in the screenshots section. Didn't deign to reply but the guy did stop posting for a while. It wasn't even a strongly worded PM.

Note to self: PM PenguinMaster.

masterchocobo
22nd May 2007, 12:27 AM
I haven't been made a topic out of me yet. :(

The thing is, sometimes I really feel like flaming something, because of... stress. I'm sure all of you, sometime, somewhere in your lives you feel like hitting something. Well, guess this is how I hit. :)

PhoenixRider
22nd May 2007, 02:28 AM
new people should be PMed about the rules and should be given atleast 3 warnings before being put in the spotlight on HotSand.

All I belive is that HotSand is being abused now-a-days and half of the topics made here are unnecessary and could be solved diplomatically instead of putting them on the stage so quickly =/

Jedisbar
22nd May 2007, 11:51 AM
Anyone that knows hot sands original purpose is laughing reaaally hard right now. Just so y'all know.

Son of Morkai
23rd May 2007, 01:11 AM
That's it. I told you people nicely to get out. You didn't. I hate to have to do this... but you forced me to.

*points and laughs*

Oh, and Phoenix... if you have a "career" on this forum... you really suck. Totally suck. Like Hoover suckage. I mean, "career"?

*points and laughs some more*

"Career"!?

As for pyro...

*pities*

d3k0y
23rd May 2007, 01:43 AM
As is my job as a lurker I simply read this section of the forum every once in a while, however, I <3 hot sands because it makes me laugh at the stupidity of most of you.

...however this filled me with righteous rage.

I vote Morkai to gtfo.
Mork > (almost? hehe) all of you :O
and Hot Sands = never going away

pyrofyr
23rd May 2007, 03:49 AM
Haha your funny. Go drop a nut please.
If flaming people is all you can do, and you're obviously not so great at it, you should go kill yourself. Honestly, if you're not contributing to the society here, you should gtfo.

KindaMaybe
23rd May 2007, 04:58 AM
Haha your funny. Go drop a nut please.
If flaming people is all you can do, and you're obviously not so great at it, you should go kill yourself. Honestly, if you're not contributing to the society here, you should gtfo.

Jeezus, just shut up and stop complaining. Hot Sands is to flame people, not to lightly flame people. If you dont like it, then get the hell out and dont read in here. SIMPLE! <3

masterchocobo
23rd May 2007, 09:42 AM
Pyrofyr, you know what this place is all about.

Jedisbar
23rd May 2007, 11:25 AM
Haha your funny. Go drop a nut please.
If flaming people is all you can do, and you're obviously not so great at it, you should go kill yourself. Honestly, if you're not contributing to the society here, you should gtfo.

You mean like.. say, in a chat room? Or maybe by being a worse troll than cheez by trying to be smart about it? Or just crying about everything? Simple fact of the matter is, hot sands is still doing its job. Hell, I'm pretty sure there's like 3 people that attucaly know what the original intent was, and I'm the only one left on the boards. Hot sands is for flaming the hell out of people. That's it. There is no other purpose, and last I checked unless the flame reaches a level where it's spewing over into the other boards, it's far game.

So you and the rest of your teary little pre-schoolers should "gtfo" hot sands. Now.

I'd also like to add that you can't even complain about flaming in this thread, your free game. Haha, it's wonderful that in attempting to get rid of the most lol area on these boards you have put yourself on the gallows. Only thing that would top this would be inderpaul making a "Who loves me?" thread.

Ash
23rd May 2007, 11:32 AM
So wait, we can flame anyone here, no questions asked?

Wigum
23rd May 2007, 11:43 AM
No. The original intent was instead of threads turning into drama wars (like what happens to each and every thread on the sleepywood broa section) you take it here. It's lightly moderated, it's intended to let you get stuff off your chest. Rant about someone and that person shouldn't take offense, because it's in hot sands.

It has become a forum lynchmob to new posters here, and that's what pyro's peeve is.

Someone makes two posts, someone makes a thread in here, and all of a sudden you have 20-30 forumers following around the poor guy calling him a moron rather than helping him actually become a member here.

And i agree with him on that point.

masterchocobo
23rd May 2007, 11:50 AM
No. The original intent was instead of threads turning into drama wars (like what happens to each and every thread on the sleepywood broa section) you take it here. It's lightly moderated, it's intended to let you get stuff off your chest. Rant about someone and that person shouldn't take offense, because it's in hot sands.

It has become a forum lynchmob to new posters here, and that's what pyro's peeve is.

Someone makes two posts, someone makes a thread in here, and all of a sudden you have 20-30 forumers following around the poor guy calling him a moron rather than helping him actually become a member here.

And i agree with him on that point.
Really? So far I've seen people who really are morons.

Ash
23rd May 2007, 12:21 PM
Then how about people who purposely make a thread about themselves in here?

slightlyoddguy
23rd May 2007, 12:22 PM
Really? So far I've seen people who really are morons.

I agree with masterchocobo on this one. Call me quick to judge, but I know an idiot when I see one.

Jedisbar
23rd May 2007, 02:14 PM
It has become a forum lynchmob to new posters here, and that's what pyro's peeve is.

Someone makes two posts, someone makes a thread in here, and all of a sudden you have 20-30 forumers following around the poor guy calling him a moron rather than helping him actually become a member here.


Indeed, but as stated above I haven't seen that happen. New posters that are morons, yes, but not posters that aren't. And if that is pyro's point, he may want to reword his posts, as well as drop the double standards.

KindaMaybe
23rd May 2007, 03:36 PM
No. The original intent was instead of threads turning into drama wars (like what happens to each and every thread on the sleepywood broa section) you take it here. It's lightly moderated, it's intended to let you get stuff off your chest. Rant about someone and that person shouldn't take offense, because it's in hot sands.

It has become a forum lynchmob to new posters here, and that's what pyro's peeve is.

Someone makes two posts, someone makes a thread in here, and all of a sudden you have 20-30 forumers following around the poor guy calling him a moron rather than helping him actually become a member here.

And i agree with him on that point.

I agree with you about jumping on the new posters that make a bad first impression...but pyro isnt making this thread about those. He is getting mad that the Cheez thread is going and going and doing what hot sands is made for.

Son of Morkai
23rd May 2007, 03:42 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaaayum.

Of course all I do is flame. I mean, what am I supposed to do? Compliment people on being dumbasses?

Good job, pyro. Helluva good job. I think you're up for a merit-based promotion. Or demotion. Depends on how you look at it.

I come in, show you people how to play the game, and you're just responding like Jullyf*g. If you can't even learn by example... *sighs* ... well, I guess there's nothing else that can be done for you.

I mean, COME ON! SERIOUSLY! WHAT THE ****? If you really want Hot Sands gone, then you post in the Feedback & Suggestions section. Dumbass. Posting in Hot Sands just gets you sum o' dat flaming. This thread is so ****ing stupid that someone joined the IRC channel just to get me in here to flame your sorry ass. Do you think I just flame anyone? Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell no! These custom flames take time and effort and I save them for people I feel are worthy.

Since this isn't in Feedback & Suggestions, I can only say that Pyro doesn't intend for this to be taken seriously and he just wants flaming. Or he's a moron, and thus deserves flaming. Therefore... flaming.

KindaMaybe
23rd May 2007, 03:45 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaaayum.

Of course all I do is flame. I mean, what am I supposed to do? Compliment people on being dumbasses?

Good job, pyro. Helluva good job. I think you're up for a merit-based promotion. Or demotion. Depends on how you look at it.

I come in, show you people how to play the game, and you're just responding like Jullyf*g. If you can't even learn by example... *sighs* ... well, I guess there's nothing else that can be done for you.

I mean, COME ON! SERIOUSLY! WHAT THE ****? If you really want Hot Sands gone, then you post in the Feedback & Suggestions section. Dumbass. Posting in Hot Sands just gets you sum o' dat flaming. This thread is so ****ing stupid that someone joined the IRC channel just to get me in here to flame your sorry ass. Do you think I just flame anyone? Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell no! These custom flames take time and effort and I save them for people I feel are worthy.

Since this isn't in Feedback & Suggestions, I can only say that Pyro doesn't intend for this to be taken seriously and he just wants flaming. Or he's a moron, and thus deserves flaming. Therefore... flaming.

Couldnt resist.

Son of Morkai
23rd May 2007, 03:46 PM
Couldnt resist.
:(

You're supposed to quote it and then just type "quoted for truth" or "qft".

Ash
23rd May 2007, 03:53 PM
It is my belief that Pyrofyr is simply peeved that people of all shapes and sizes seem to be targets these days.
Then again, most of them ask for it.

Cheez
23rd May 2007, 04:10 PM
He had a point. hot sands is total **** and needs a time out while people take time to remember it's not for being a whiny little ***** about every teensy problem you have with someone.

KindaMaybe
23rd May 2007, 04:16 PM
:(

You're supposed to quote it and then just type "quoted for truth" or "qft".

qft.......

Jedisbar
23rd May 2007, 04:35 PM
He had a point. hot sands is total **** and needs a time out while people take time to remember it's not for being a whiny little ***** about every teensy problem you have with someone.

I miss your thread man, that was some damn nice flaming from both sides. Perhaps we will meet in the field of battle again once more, who knows?

As for your post, umm no. It's here so if you have a problem you can flame about it, and the flame won't mean ****. It has zero meaning outside this board. At all. Ever. The only time it becomes an issue is when it starts to leak out, which I'm yet to see. Flaming outside of this forum in gangs is not allowed. You are allowed to point out x is a dumbass for saying y because z is true, but your not allowed to just flame willy nilly.

I shouldn't have to tell anyone about the story of Cheez, but he is a wonderful example of why this forum was made.

Ash
23rd May 2007, 04:46 PM
*Agrees with one person within this page, but is not going to indicate who*

Cheez
23rd May 2007, 05:24 PM
I miss your thread man, that was some damn nice flaming from both sides. Perhaps we will meet in the field of battle again once more, who knows?

As for your post, umm no. It's here so if you have a problem you can flame about it, and the flame won't mean ****. It has zero meaning outside this board. At all. Ever. The only time it becomes an issue is when it starts to leak out, which I'm yet to see. Flaming outside of this forum in gangs is not allowed. You are allowed to point out x is a dumbass for saying y because z is true, but your not allowed to just flame willy nilly.

I shouldn't have to tell anyone about the story of Cheez, but he is a wonderful example of why this forum was made.
But uh.. That's the problem. It's gone from being useful to being full of whining. Some people have/had more than one thread going at once for no explainable reason, and half the time it was over something that either would go well in the next thread over or was better left quiet rather than cried over.

KindaMaybe
23rd May 2007, 06:06 PM
But uh.. That's the problem. It's gone from being useful to being full of whining. Some people have/had more than one thread going at once for no explainable reason, and half the time it was over something that either would go well in the next thread over or was better left quiet rather than cried over.

And thats one of the problems of Hot Sands, well not of Hot Sands really, just of idiot people.

Jedisbar
23rd May 2007, 08:48 PM
But uh.. That's the problem. It's gone from being useful to being full of whining. Some people have/had more than one thread going at once for no explainable reason, and half the time it was over something that either would go well in the next thread over or was better left quiet rather than cried over.

Agreed, and those are the threads that you ignore. "OH NOES HE SAID MY PIC IS SILLY SO I FLAME HIM /wrists" aren't worth jack, concentrate on the ones worth it. I don't know about you lot, but after the first flame it just becomes fun. Sure if the target wants to get upset about it they can go for it, but at the end of the day hotsands means nothing. Look at the phoenixrider thread. The first one, not the ones he made. That was decent. LMKM did exactly what he was supposed to, then other people, weither or not they had a problem jumped on. Oh noes, band wagonering. No, not always; a lot of people are just too unsure what will happen if they speak out, but once someone else says something they feel safer to speak up. As far as I care, phoenix is only a problem on occasion, and even then it's the effect he has not he himself.

Once that thread reached the low level of importance they all take, it became a free for all. Lots of laughs there. Problem is that people take it to heart far to much. After the topic starter, don't give a damn. Take note that there's a problem, and that more than one person might have an issue with it, but honestly? Just enjoy the rest of the thread. Give as good as you get. Honestly, few things beat the humble flame war in terms of lol.

Fact of the matter is hotsands is an ugly little world, but it's meant to be ugly so the rest of the place and be as pretty as <insert whoever you think of in the middle of the night>.

Saighan
23rd May 2007, 09:17 PM
Pardon me for being slow, I just realised how ironic this thread is.

PenguinMaster
24th May 2007, 03:03 PM
then don't use hot sands

Cheez
24th May 2007, 04:17 PM
then don't use hot sands

But you're an idiot. Stfu.

whendoom
25th May 2007, 12:38 AM
One of the few that remembers why hot sands was made. it didn't sit well with me then, but I saw the initial posting and said to myself it was harmless. if you notice most of the later threads are, like Wigum said, of the lynch mob variety. It's sorta a little hard when a newcomer takes one step and they get bashed upside the head. Personally, I went the Saighan approach lurked all the forum boards before posting in them. I guess people sometimes forget that there are kids in here that should be warned a few times before they're thrown to the wolves. *Kudos on the warning system.

KindaMaybe
25th May 2007, 05:08 AM
Ok, lets all agree that bashing on newcomers the first stupid post they make is wrong, but threads like the Cheez thread, that was ok, thats what Hot Sands was made for...wasnt it?

Saighan
25th May 2007, 05:46 AM
Ok, lets all agree that bashing on newcomers the first stupid post they make is wrong, but threads like the Cheez thread, that was ok, thats what Hot Sands was made for...wasnt it?
Until it degraded into a lousy name calling match, I would say yes.

KindaMaybe
25th May 2007, 06:34 AM
Until it degraded into a lousy name calling match, I would say yes.

Thats what flaming is though isnt it? I mean its a weak way of flaming someone, but it thats what it really is, flaming.

Saighan
25th May 2007, 07:03 PM
Thats what flaming is though isnt it? I mean its a weak way of flaming someone, but it thats what it really is, flaming.
I dunnoe...Ash showed me a "letter of resignation" that she wrote to the Sleepywood moderators, and it was sheer poetry.

Ash
25th May 2007, 09:50 PM
I've refined my flaming skills to the point that one has to read it properly to get the idea that I'm flaming them.
I happen to think it's funnier when people think I like them. Using swear words is just too lame.

masterchocobo
25th May 2007, 10:02 PM
Must... stalk... Ash's posts... for flaming...

ddlink
25th May 2007, 10:46 PM
Must... stalk... Ash's posts... for flaming...

Oh yeah I quoted you in my signature. :D

I'm probably the worst flamer here. I rox. :D

masterchocobo
26th May 2007, 05:54 AM
Oh yeah I quoted you in my signature. :D

I'm probably the worst flamer here. I rox. :D
Probably.

I have to change my signature now. :D

PhoenixRider
26th May 2007, 06:25 PM
scrap my previous posts, hotsand should stay, the forum is not entertainting now-a-days, and whenever an entertaining topic comes around, guess which sub-forum its on?

Ash
26th May 2007, 07:44 PM
Here?
Should have been obvious though.

Bassz
27th May 2007, 02:23 AM
I drew like 6 *****es on my shoes.

KindaMaybe
27th May 2007, 06:15 AM
I drew like 6 *****es on my shoes.

You arent even funny anymore.

Zait
27th May 2007, 10:51 AM
When he was funny in the first place?

KindaMaybe
27th May 2007, 04:08 PM
When he was funny in the first place?

I used to think his random comments were funny, but that day has passed long ago.

PhoenixRider
27th May 2007, 07:19 PM
When he was funny in the first place?

when he was...what the hell are you talking about boy?

anyways, he isnt funny to you guys, so what, if this is what he likes posting and if its allowed, then post on

KindaMaybe
27th May 2007, 07:23 PM
when he was...what the hell are you talking about boy?

anyways, he isnt funny to you guys, so what, if this is what he likes posting and if its allowed, then post on

Did anyone say anything along the lines of "Dont post that!"? I just looked back...and nope, we just said he wasnt funny. Sorry.

PhoenixRider
27th May 2007, 07:35 PM
Did anyone say anything along the lines of "Dont post that!"? I just looked back...and nope
nice observation, thank you for informing me, I would have never knew you guys didnt say "Dont post that!"


we just said he wasnt funny. Sorry.
thank you for apologizing :D lol (I know what you meant)

okay...who cares if you dont think he is funny?

I never thought he was funny but I didnt really care, cause thats what he wanted to post.

Sasuke-Kun
28th May 2007, 04:26 PM
You arent even funny anymore.

Truee, bassz got boring.
I remember laughing alot from him.

KindaMaybe
28th May 2007, 04:41 PM
Truee, bassz got boring.
I remember laughing alot from him.

Me too, he used to make random posts like now...but they used to be funny.

Zait
28th May 2007, 07:07 PM
when he was...what the hell are you talking about boy?



Well im sorry because english is my 3rd language actually >_>

Piauzito
28th May 2007, 10:25 PM
true he used to be fun... =/

Jedisbar
28th May 2007, 11:28 PM
I applaud everyone that sat here and laughed like hell for the whole thread, it truly is a piece of art. But now it's moved onto a whole different subject, as true as the subject is, it's time to lay it to rest, from great height.