Fire/Poison or Cleric???????

[Anonymous]

Im stuck on the decision of Fire/Poison or Cleric for 2nd job. Give me some advice here plz, hopefully with some real experiences, or tell me why one is better than the other. Thanks. :lol:

[dolphy]

i'd go with cleric, because theyre loved by nearly anyone =) [only other clerics hate another cleric]
theyre always quite rich, because of their ability to never need health potions and kill mass undead enemies (dont use heal to attack zombie lupins until its maxed, otherwise they'll tear you to pieces)

a minor bonus on clerics is that heal actually gives you exp when you heal PARTY MEMBERS ONLY (heal will not give exp if you use it to attack and/or only heal yourself)

however, holy arrow seems to be much weaker than fire arrows, even on devil based monsters sometime...

eh...forgot something
if you do intend to be a cleric, DO NOT USE HEAL TO LEVEL YOURSELF IF YOU ARE 99.98%!
I tried to just to level in town and make people gape at me, rather terrible mistake. Your level doesnt count, at all, the exp bar resets to 0% and your stuck trying to level again. Not fun..

[Anonymous]

i'd go with cleric, because theyre loved by nearly anyone =) [only other clerics hate another cleric]
theyre always quite rich, because of their ability to never need health potions and kill mass undead enemies (dont use heal to attack zombie lupins until its maxed, otherwise they'll tear you to pieces)

a minor bonus on clerics is that heal actually gives you exp when you heal PARTY MEMBERS ONLY (heal will not give exp if you use it to attack and/or only heal yourself)

however, holy arrow seems to be much weaker than fire arrows, even on devil based monsters sometime...

eh...forgot something
if you do intend to be a cleric, DO NOT USE HEAL TO LEVEL YOURSELF IF YOU ARE 99.98%!
I tried to just to level in town and make people gape at me, rather terrible mistake. Your level doesnt count, at all, the exp bar resets to 0% and your stuck trying to level again. Not fun..

Basically what he said. xD

[Lyon]

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I'm the first one here to say Fire/ Poison ^^

because Fire hit harder then cleric ^^ (I'm one for hitting hard) and Cleric are usually surportative characters (boosting defence and healing) so they don't hit hard and it might get a little bit boring after a while XD My sis became a cleric and only at level 39, she is complaning about being bored to hell as her job now is to heal her friends XD

If you are one that like powerful character, go for fire poison...If you are one about defence, go for cleric

I got delema to about job advancing....mine is between Ice and Fire XD

[greenblob]

fire arrow ALWAYS hits harder than holy arrow unless you're fighting fire-resistant monsters

and from what I've heard, clerics mostly just use support skills and leech from party members at later lvls. magic claw gets almost intolerably weak around lvl 50-60

so my choice would be fire/POISON!!!

[Nekorion]

Fire/Poison person here.

Personally I just get sick of seeing clerics =P
Prefer to see someone killing stuff instead of sitting there healing.

[LittoLoner]

Well, take it from a Fire/Poison Wiz.. well my cousin is one but i basically created the build for her.

A fire/poison or as i will call a fire mage,
IS the Strongest
IS the Fastest at lvling

Fire Mages start slow with weak fire but as fire arrow reaches lvl 15+ you will be able to own JR. Grupins in 1-2hits. Vs. Ice mages 2 hits and clerics 2/3 claw. Altough you may not be able to kill mobs and heal yourself you have "slow" which slows down the monsters allowing you to mow them down with fire arrow. And at grupins you wont need that many pots as you will be 1 hitting them. My cousin has train on grupins for quite a few lvls now and has just moved to jr pepes and leattys. She has found 5 Fish spears, and 4 moons. Note she has been there for like 2 -3 lvls. she is now lvl 47 and is owning everything in her path.

DONT FORGET. almost everything in el nath is practically and ice type. So you WILL OWN. Clerics can own the dark monsters... but there are only so many you can kill...
so to tell you the truth the choice is OBVIOUS go FIRE/POISON

[Reverend Sin]

I went Both.

And this:


IS the Strongest
IS the Fastest at lvling

Is not necessarily true. My cleric levelled a LOT faster than my firemage, and where Undead or Dark monsters are concerned the Cleric is obviously more powerful.

Let's see, Faster Levelling... From 35-70 Cleric's level faster. Strongest? It depends on what your fighting. Even in El Nath training is a pain in the ass, Leatty's are 60, Jr Pepes 7x compared to the 90*6 you get with a cleric, or even the 1xx*6 if your killing wraiths. My Firemage was a PAIN in the mid 30's, and fun right up until 42. Then levelling was brutally slow again.

Also, an Ice Mage would not be fighting Grupins Litto, the Cellions and Lioners are weak to Ice, so they would be owning 2 different Jr Kittens as opposed to your 1. They also have Fireboars. Clerics OBVIOUSLY wouldn't be fighting them as they would be tackling Jr Wraiths in B2, then ZLupins and then Wraiths.

And Clerics don't need pots at all. Getting slow at a low level is completely pointless as you'll take away from your possible damage. I'd rather kill them fast than slow them down. And I really feel sorry for her if she spent that many levels at Jr Grupins, I spent from 38-40 there and left. I can't imagine doing them past 40.

And at level 47 people are more willing to take my Cleric to Tauromacis than they would be taking ANY firemage.

Advantages of a Cleric:

They don't use Potions. At all. After I hit about 15 MP Eater I stopped buying MP Pots.

They Heal. Combined with MP Eater I'm nearly invincible during training. And I save a TON of money not buying pots.

They level FAR faster than a Firemage. My mages were both the same level until I hit about 37. Then my cleric just kind of exploded with XP. 90*6 is better than 70,70,70,70,70 any day. I kill faster, for more XP, more Mesos, and Better loot. At level 47 your still killing a monster one at a time that's giving you 70XP, when at level 38 I was killing a monster for comparable XP 6 at a time. Then I moved on to something that was giving me even more.

But don't get me wrong, I love my Firemage, he's a bit more versatile than my cleric and he's a ton of fun. I'm glad I made one of every class, I dont see why people have to stick to JUST ONE.

[silverchao]

The only reason i became a fire/ poison was because my friend was already a cleric... So I treid osmething different. But cleric is a good choice because you like never die and you get holy arrow which dosn't do as much as fire arrow, but once it's maxed, it'll do a lot. 8)

[3peace]

i was a fire and poison wizard for my 1st account in OMS and to tell u honestly when i got lvl 41 i got so bored of just kill kill kill i quit mages and made a sin =/ but that was only my choice,also i would go with cleric cuz kill mobs=fast exp,never use pots....exept for mp=gets rich fast and actually i think they DO do more damage then fire arrow with holy arrow against devil type monsters,also o hate typing with one habd >.>

[spartan013]

id prefer cleric. CLERIC > joo all
and clerics are good with money $_$

[Anonymous]

Pick fire if you like major damage on monsters. It really goes good at Orbis... :wink:

[Anonymous]

eh...forgot something
if you do intend to be a cleric, DO NOT USE HEAL TO LEVEL YOURSELF IF YOU ARE 99.98%!
I tried to just to level in town and make people gape at me, rather terrible mistake. Your level doesnt count, at all, the exp bar resets to 0% and your stuck trying to level again. Not fun..

same happen to me b4,just close maple and log in again and u'll be the next lvl

btw i pick fire

[Sforzando]

Go fire mage nao if you haven't already made a decision. Fire Mages hit hard. Very, very hard. They have the area skill Explosion 3rd Job. Unless you're a person with a double-digit IQ, you should know that an Explosion is this big thing that goes boom. Like a LOUD sort of boom. Things that go boom = cool, therefore, Fire Mage = Cool.

Then there's poison, oh the very odd poison. The 2nd Job skill, Poison Brace, has about 70 BA max, much like Harrow for Clerics. One little perk about brace though. Obviously it can poison the target, and doing extra damage on the side is always cool. d(^_^d) Not to mention in 3rd Job you get another area attack skill, Poison Myst. From the pictures I've seen, it shows a frog. Owning several things at once with a frog that gives off poison. How is that not cool? Clerics have dragon, Bowman get birdies, and Fire/Poison Mages get a frog. o.O

I've had personal experience with Fire Mage and they are quite fun. >_> 120 BA on Farrow is very, very, sexy. It'll attract the ladies.. or whoever has low expectations in a guy. (Or the other way around if you're a girl, though personally I'd be afraid of a girl that can bust out total annihilation in a heartbeat o.O)

*end pointless lecture*

[brokenpiece]

i think fire wizard is better. Being a cleric is quite bored as i think, only until 3rd job, the life of cleric will become mor interesting.
and as i am a fire wiz, i think being a fire wiz is quite good, as many monsters r weak in fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so i suggest fire wiz

[eefie]

first to talk abt ice mage..

abt the highest dmg.....ice mage have thunder spear :D pwned.

abt lvling speed....well its still cleric.....

ice mages can pwn higher lvled monsters earlier too, as early as fire mage, coz of da freeze. (btw, lupins look cute when frozen)

AoE spells are better left to ice mages......ice strike works better as an AoE than explosion coz mob control is what AoE does, and freeze controls mobs well, right? so hell to ur 20 more magic attack, freeze is way better.

and fire mages cannot kill WWs as well as ice mages. neither can clerics.

and ice mages save up money too. although not as much. but if an ice mage is lucky...then clerics will have way less money (if an ice mage kills cellions and gets 2 or more claw scrolls....and hunting WWs brings EW.....)

so go ice mage!!!!and be bored out of ur skull killing kitties, from small to big, from lvl 42 all the way to 55, 13 lvls of cats. go hunt pixies if u are bored. gives money too. oh and i forgot, lorangs drop nice kfans pretty regularly. kfans=money.

EDIT: additional point. more ppl would party an ice mage than a fire mage for macis/spear. ice mages totally pwn them. they are ice weak, can be frozen.

[bagabong]

clerics are for making friends, partying, lvling together. . . makes it more fun . . .but fire wiz IMO is more 'serious'. . . moe for soloists

[AznDarkWizard]

Well, take it from a Fire/Poison Wiz.. well my cousin is one but i basically created the build for her.

A fire/poison or as i will call a fire mage,
IS the Strongest
IS the Fastest at lvling

Fire Mages start slow with weak fire but as fire arrow reaches lvl 15+ you will be able to own JR. Grupins in 1-2hits. Vs. Ice mages 2 hits and clerics 2/3 claw. Altough you may not be able to kill mobs and heal yourself you have "slow" which slows down the monsters allowing you to mow them down with fire arrow. And at grupins you wont need that many pots as you will be 1 hitting them. My cousin has train on grupins for quite a few lvls now and has just moved to jr pepes and leattys. She has found 5 Fish spears, and 4 moons. Note she has been there for like 2 -3 lvls. she is now lvl 47 and is owning everything in her path.

DONT FORGET. almost everything in el nath is practically and ice type. So you WILL OWN. Clerics can own the dark monsters... but there are only so many you can kill...
so to tell you the truth the choice is OBVIOUS go FIRE/POISON

NOT EVERYTHING IN EL NATH
there a place call el nath dongoen u dumb ass! almost all the moster there is fire.And fire is not the strongest just to tell u!! f@ggit =|

[lilcrackstah]

depends, clerics cant do much, only heal, until 3rd job. fires are tanks, do the msot dmg for now, but 3rd job sux. ur choice.

[eefie]

depends, clerics cant do much, only heal, until 3rd job. fires are tanks, do the msot dmg for now, but 3rd job sux. ur choice.

so since second job clerics dont do as good and third job fire dont do as good....then go ice!!!!!!!!!

[Lucklesslyn]

so since second job clerics dont do as good and third job fire dont do as good....then go ice!!!!!!!!!

Lol..choose the middle one, nice one.
Ice? Please..my brother slaved for 6 months and only got till lvl 51, where he gave up and now happily lvling his dit.
Clerics and priests aren't any diff frm one another..They're not built to be the offensive kind. But they have pretty amazing supportive skills though. I'm not being biased here but aren't u gonna be bored doing the same routine? H.S, Bless, Heal, H.S, Bless, Heal..
My friend got so bored till she stopped her priest and went to start a sin.

And as for lilcrackstah, 3rd job fire doesn't really suck, if u know where to train, u might be lvling faster than ever b4.

And i quote frm Devilrymage:
The Fire Mage is believed to be the weakest class in the game. Although in terms of offensive abilities priests are at the bottom of the list, just below fire mages, they are respected for their great variety of useful party skills, thus making people frowning at fire mages and saying, ‘That’s the most useless class ever.’

Those who say that are the most ignorant, incompetent and unreliable reviewers, I assure you. If you only look at certain aspects of a game, like perhaps only its storyline and graphics, you are a lousy reviewer. Same goes for making opinions on Maple Story jobs.

In fact, put up a level 120 dragon knight against a level 120 fire mage at grim phantom watches. You’ll be please to know that the dragon knight has already lost before the start of the battle.

As far as I’m concerned, the heavier the map spawn rate is, the more efficient fire mages are.

Well enough with this, since I will be touching on the skills later. I just want you all to know that this is the heaviest section in the whole guide and I will be splitting the guide into two builds; explosion and poison myst. Actually I would say that you can max anything you want that takes effect immediately in your training, like elemental amplification and elemental composition but the explosion and poison myst builds are the two most effective builds in the game. Another thing you will be pleased to know about is that in the 3rd job, you can actually train faster than you used to in the 2nd job until around level 100.

[Sanomeh]

I have my cleric, and I've goofed on my friend's fire/poison wizard before. I can honestly say I LOVED playing the fire/poison wizard. I really enjoyed abusing poison, and fire arrow can do some nice damage.

Heck, when I drag him along with me, I get all excited for hitting 1.6k with HA on wraiths, where he's pretty much hitting that normally and doesn't get the elemental weakness as I am. It's depressing, because I really wish I went fire/poison now when he told me to instead of going Cleric. Really, spamming heal nonstop isn't the most enjoyable thing to do in the world.

[WongFeiYing2]

I would say Fire/Poison because the damage they do is just crazy. I'd still pick fire mages even though clerics have heal because heal at first does nothing and it's damage is still nothing compared to the damage of a fire arrow. Anyway, if you train at undead places your going to need mp rather than hp. So, i'd say Fire & Poison Mages Are Better Than Clerics. :cool:

[Tomihatsu]

If I WOULD pick I'd pick neither because clerics are nothing but slaves to people. "heal me plzzzzzzz" is so annoying. But theyre useful, too.


On the other hand, firepoisons are the strongets out of all three classes...

[BigFuzzyDoor]

Offtopic: Why was this thread revived? I know you feel that fire mages are underrated, but that was being discussed in the sticky wasn't it?

Ontopic: Here's the rundown on clerics / priests:
You can solo yourself up to level 80 or 90 just fine. You don't need to party much and be a "heal slave" before then (of course you can if you like). But at that point, you don't really have enough offensive power to train alone; plus HS makes it make sense to party. SOOoo generally what you do (my experience is with squid parties, others may be different) is run around the map HSing and Blessing everyone. You get XP for little to no effort (other than wandering around the map) but this can be boring. I know at least at gobies you can heal the bonefish to death if you're bored...

Here's the rundown on fire mages:
2nd job: sucks. Although your damage is good, you can only attack single targets (and you don't have the speed that sins do to help you out). Unless you've got poison bolt, you'll struggle to get to 70 (60-70 can be easy by poisoning death teddies; a nightmare if training with fire arrow).
3rd job: awesome. I almost regret not going fire for this reason. Poison mist allows you to solo train REALLY fast. This one guy who I bumped into said he could get 17% per hour at level 118. You also have the option of partying (some parties will let you mist the whole map, or you can just use explosion).

It just depends on your style of play; neither is "better." If you like being a support character and are willing to rely on parties, a cleric is a good choice for you. If you're patient (through 2nd job) and like the idea of training SICKNASTYAWESOMEFAST 3rd job, fire mage is a good choice.