Out of all the mages, which has the best future?

[Trinity]

and if you can post the reason why you think this

[ttinchung555]

:D they can use heal so they survive

[jhtv]

PRIEST ROCK ALL THE WAY. OMFG THEY PWN EVERYONE IN SIGHT. GGGGOOOO DOOOOM!!!!

[delvro]

attack mages will get outdamaged by other classes.

[Princess]

Priests are hot.
My friend in jMS does CRAZY DMG to stuff, and is just standing there.

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[Sinx]

Yeah i had watched some videos, and mages can do like 7-8k damage each time they hit, but other classes such as bandits and can make like 10-13k each time they hit with they savage blow, and make 8k with slash much faster then mages with their spells, and sinx atacks really fast too, mages have a really bad future its hard to see high lvl mages that are not the cleric, they are the mostly respected cause they can make plp lvl really fast and transform very scary things such as werewolfs into snails, so if u thinking on future go with cleric, but be patient

[infuriated]

wowwww...werewolves into snails??!! how do they do dat?! i cant imagine....can sum1 tell mi at whihc lvls cleric is harder 2 train...?

[brainy2]

lvls 50-70 yup that's cleric for ya well i prefer fire mage even thought the get out damaged they can sink awesome damage too and i personally think they r fun to play with :D

[Sinx]

That s all what matter, if u think its fun, nothing else matter

and Clerics can´t only transfomr werewolfs intop snail they can transform everything that is not a boss, there are lvl 80-90 monster that are non bosses, but u can transform 6 of then into snails at the same time, they have snail atack and def, but keep the same hp, and to do this u need a magic stone, that can be made by some material and 5k after finish a lvl 70 quest, u can also summon a dragon that takes 5-6k of balrog when maxed, well its not that much but clerics main thing is nto damage

they also get a skill that makes everyone lvl like 200% faster, so its a really disavantage train without a cleric with u

[pikachuyann]

I/L & Cleric at the same place

Ice Lightening because of mob skill (90 base damage on 6 mobs, that's a lot ! Very good training on Fire Boars, Jr. Kitties...), Lightening Skill (170) and double-element skill (150) ~ Too much damage :)

Fire has the worst damages ( 120 ... and 120 only >.<). Poison isn't as good as freezee.

Cleric [ Priest ] is good too O.o. EXPx1,5 (120s) for only 80MP. You'll have a lot of time regaining your MP - with MP Eater and all... So it isn't a stupidity to do that. Doom is ... O.O surprenant. Turning into snails Werewolf & cie... want to say "wtf". :). Shining Ray finally got an decent attack (105). They're an hyper good supportive class, with VERY GOOD solo spells. ~~

[garlag]

u guys are all stupid about the priest thing first of all if a priest does summon draggy it needs gai summon stone and the doom the snail attack only works on weak monsters its like going up to a balrog and trying to doom it it wont work its like how some people cnat be poisoned if it was aloud to doom everything the game would be cheap gai and horny fire mages get a rich future because all theyre monsters that they have advantage on drop the good stuff ice mage has a good future with thunder spear but how long u think it take to max that thing... priest just blows people think priests are richest but theyre not theyre getting exp to heal someone and half of the time clerics forget to ask to get payed for healing

[Gaia]

LOL
Omg garlag no offense but u r dumb really dumb.
Priests have the best future in the 3rd advancement for the mages.Why u may ask.Well 1 the priest have different attacks like shining ray,doom,summon dragon. and fire/ice just have the same but better elemental attacks which dont work well vs all monsters.From the videos ive seen in the priest vids shining ray works well on all kinds of monsters and they can also lvling quicker when they master holy symbol.
Priests dont blow so wat if they aint the richest they can lvl hella faster then fire and ice im betting o ya u think clerics Need to party they dont need to party not even when they r clerics they dont need to party.We do just fine soloing more exp and money when we dont party.
o ya 1 more thing about the doom only working on weak monsters haha ur making me laugh...it works on any monsters thats not a boss 90& work rate it will work. Lets see wat the lvl 113 priest made it work on lycanthrops/ww/tauromaci/taurospear and right now those arent weak monsters since 3rd advancement hasnt come out yet.
All i got to say right now


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GaiaHoly:4x Cleric (will be priest once 3rd advancment comes out)

[Hitsugaya]

priest because of thier doom enough said

[brainy2]

Fire has the worst damages ( 120 ... and 120 only >.<). Poison isn't as good as freezee.


hey are u forgeting that 120 on mobs is WAY better than 90 on mobs?
and i/l also has its disadvantages like every other job and dont forget that thunder spear is uber slow and fire mages magic composition is 150 and i/l is 140 so im just pointing out that all mages or should i say jobs has their advantages and disadvantages

[Hitsugaya]

in the beggining fire mages r the strongest but in the end clerics r the strongest

[Teox]

I'm having major issues with this too. I made a mage a week ago, when I got bored of my hunter, i'm now at level 20 and have decided that mages are way more fun. But I'm a quitter, so someone suggested I should be a Ice/Lightening mage because they level quick, yet clerics sound so good too. They need to make a Snow-Cleric class. Anyone got any suggestions for me?

[chaz_jo]

I'm having major issues with this too. I made a mage a week ago, when I got bored of my hunter, i'm now at level 20 and have decided that mages are way more fun. But I'm a quitter, so someone suggested I should be a Ice/Lightening mage because they level quick, yet clerics sound so good too. They need to make a Snow-Cleric class. Anyone got any suggestions for me?

Snow? I think if there was ever another suggestion for mage snow woudn't be one of them because they already have ice.....

What would snow do? Snowballs are for sins not mages.

[CowsGoMoo]

wow you guys changed my mind, instead of ice/lightning, me become cleric

[yeahyeah]

cleric rocks 8)

[MeRc_4_HiRe]

clerics rock especially at lvl 70+ they own so hard. see the lvl 113 priest vid and you'll know what i mena.

[shotkalla]

Ice mages>Fire mages. Lightning Spear (with booster) > Fire Arrow. Ice blocks > Explosion.

[Lazyboi00]

and not only doom if u fight 2 crimson barlogs with a maxed shining ray stock up with elexier/power elexier then u can own em

[Sinx]

Yeah priests dont need to be always on party we can lvl as fast as if we were on parties ( until 3rd job sure)

and u know i think cleric is one of the mostly fun classes cause of tele :shock: :shock: :shock:

TELEPORT IS THE MOSTLY FUN THING IN MAPLE :P :P


so all wizzard except cleric sucks at 3rd job, so if u wanna keep the fun go with the cleric

[HolyBirdy]

Yep.

Fire Mages suck. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxIt4nQpUM0&mode=related&search=)

I would like to see a Priest doing that.

I think that video pretty much sums everything up about which Mage is the best. >_>

[whendoom]

wow, talk about bringing back the dead. necromancer ftw. :lol:

[eefie]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8MLET2Qxr6M&search=ice%20mage


Starmiles pwn3d joo.

[Kygre]

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[ruilex]

cleric own lol sence they save so much mesos even if there 4th job skills r the ****tiest they will still be high in demand

[aznboy888]

priests.

since if they party a DK they basically start owning all lvling people. Normal priest can get 1x% every hour.

i'd say that's fast.

[au2k5]

gaia, no offense, but YOU are dumb....the only reeason why that lvl 113 priest has both dragon and doom maxed is because of the ER glotch, which basically only makes you take 1 dmg with lvl 1 ER, wonder why you never heard of him again? because he cant max ER if he wants his other skills maxed too, therefore making him a worthless priest, who cant survive crap...and wont be taken to any zakum/major boss fight....


almost all of you are basing your opinions off of pure looks, when you havent even expierienced what its like to actually use these skills in certain situations....

im about to bash all of the mages right about now....


priests:

as a whole, have CRAPPY, CRAPPY, CRAAAAAAAPY attacks...and do not work as well solo...

shining ray, is the weakest 3rd job AOE spell, is a speed 2 skill (2nd slowest skill speed rating, about the same speed as thunder spear) low range, and isnt used over heal when training in the higher lvls, only if youre in a sniping spot, due to the stability of it..

summon dragon, again, is a slow skill, its dmg barely does more with a 120 priest than i did at umm, 85? it throws your party members off in long boss fights, such as the body part of zakum, the floating/last part of papulatus, did i mention how weak it is?

doom, is merely a getaway skill, or a safe skill when ranged party members )(bowmen, hermits) need room to attack, it also takes away elemental properties, which throws off other classes...

elemental resistance, cant argue against that...

holy symbol, need that...


ice mages:

as a whole, are very weak until about lvl 10x

ice strike, is weak, plain and simple, stronger than SR, but still not nearly as storng as most other skills (to a single monster)

thunder spear: too slow to use on monsters that arent weak to lightning or strong to ice

compo, cant say anything, except that it cant go through obsticles...

amp, burns your MP like no tomrrow if you max it too early...


fire mages:

as a whole, none of the fire mages skills work as well together compared to an ice mage...


explosion: slow as hell, not half decent until lvl 18

compo:probably the worst mage atk given...

mist, not effective without a mob of monsters




and you know what, i feel like bashing on gaia for a little bit more (enters ******* mode)

first of all, doom is not an attack...its a support skill...i already stated that in this post...summon dragon, again is not an atk, its another supportive skill...

and yorue saying that fire and ice have just better elemental attacks? AND PRIESTS DONT HAVE A BETTER ONE?!?!?! duh, just look at it...they dont fare well at all vs any monster that isnt at the very least, weak to holy (solo)

and shining ray is a crappy crappy atk solo....ice strike is even stronger than ray, and yorue saying that it works well against all monsters? pff, cmon...

holy symbol does make them lvl quick, but it isnt as effective if youre solo now is it? it take sits best effect in a party that knows how to use it right...BUT WAIT!!! WERE TALKING ABOUT A SOLO PRIEST, WHICH MEANS HE DOSENT PARTY!!!!ZOMG!!!

and umm, fire mages are the fastest lvlers in the game (about the same as DKs) from about lvl 10x-12x...faster than priests....ice mages lvl the fastest from 80-100 again, faster than priests...

and who cares of he made doom work on lycans/macis and whatever, WELL WHOOP-DEE EFFING DOO...HE CAN MAKE DOOM WORK ON MONSTERS!!

that dosent mean its a "pwnage" skill

adn not to mention, it only works 90% of the time, not even garunteed...which makes it even less of a reliable skill....

that 113 priest vid was just a showoff vid, its not meant to show how trainign REALLY is, and how you are facing death with the very next hit everytime you train, if you really wanna see a priest training vid, and how risky it is to train, watch chellez's lvl 96 priest vid, THATS the vid you should be watching....

and yes, lycans, macis, were ALWAYS weak monsters =.=

and just to showoff a bit, can someone ks this please? because a priest sure cant...

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1530/maple0058an8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


im done with this thread

[rasfene]

Well said by the guy above me.

Lets see.
Priest.
Oh most of the time they will leech HS party. When you leech, you get 1/3 experience while others get 2/3 experience for doing the killing. A priest may find themselves level so much slower than others in their own party which includes DK, saders, knight, ice mage, fire mage, hermit, bandits, sniper and ranger which means priest level the slowest among all the class in their HS party.
Another thing is the sharing of rare loads. When some DK get kage, they keep it to themselves. (dont share with priest) When they get some crap load but is feeling happy, then they told the priest, "Hey take this loot"(some crap). Tell me how is priest ever going to become really rich?

Priest dont have elemental amplification. Their dmg is going to sux big time against all mobs, even against holy and undead. They will lose ks almost anywhere. When i was a lv65 fighter, i own a lv85 priest at zombie mushmom.

Tell me how is the future of priest like now? -oh flame me all you want-

Fire/Poison Mage
Poison mist is awesome but it is impractical for more than 3men HS party. Without poison mist, fire mage dont fight very fast with either fire arrow, compo or explosion. Their leveling speed is going to be slower than other class, not to mention they are restricted to elemental grounds only.

Ice/Lightning Mage
Can freeze. Mass attack skill. High damaging thunderspear. Very strong class. Unfortunately, there are only a few monsters that gives more than 1k exp and is lightning or ice weak. The only monsters that i know are bains and the 2vikings.

Another bad thing about mage is they use the most pots when in party. (most efficient and fastest way of leveling)

Because warriors only uses 12mp per powerstrike +final attack.
DK uses 32mp per buster 3 monsters if possible.
Archers and hermit, even chief dits dont use much mp either.

All warriors' hp are healed by priest but archers, hermit and chief dits may have to heal themselves from time to time to prevent 2hko.

Mages need to use 100mp per ice strike with amplificaiton.
Plus hp so low, one hit have to heal on their own...cannot depend much on priest healing.
Even if use magic guard, also use their own mana potions to heal.

Mages only benefits from holy symbol of priest while other class benefit a lot more.

Ice mages have the best future out of the three though, to me.

[Vandaleyes]

gaia, no offense, but YOU are dumb....the only reeason why that lvl 113 priest has both dragon and doom maxed is because of the ER glotch, which basically only makes you take 1 dmg with lvl 1 ER, wonder why you never heard of him again? because he cant max ER if he wants his other skills maxed too, therefore making him a worthless priest, who cant survive crap...and wont be taken to any zakum/major boss fight....


almost all of you are basing your opinions off of pure looks, when you havent even expierienced what its like to actually use these skills in certain situations....

im about to bash all of the mages right about now....


priests:

as a whole, have CRAPPY, CRAPPY, CRAAAAAAAPY attacks...and do not work as well solo...

shining ray, is the weakest 3rd job AOE spell, is a speed 2 skill (2nd slowest skill speed rating, about the same speed as thunder spear) low range, and isnt used over heal when training in the higher lvls, only if youre in a sniping spot, due to the stability of it..

summon dragon, again, is a slow skill, its dmg barely does more with a 120 priest than i did at umm, 85? it throws your party members off in long boss fights, such as the body part of zakum, the floating/last part of papulatus, did i mention how weak it is?

doom, is merely a getaway skill, or a safe skill when ranged party members )(bowmen, hermits) need room to attack, it also takes away elemental properties, which throws off other classes...

elemental resistance, cant argue against that...

holy symbol, need that...


ice mages:

as a whole, are very weak until about lvl 10x

ice strike, is weak, plain and simple, stronger than SR, but still not nearly as storng as most other skills (to a single monster)

thunder spear: too slow to use on monsters that arent weak to lightning or strong to ice

compo, cant say anything, except that it cant go through obsticles...

amp, burns your MP like no tomrrow if you max it too early...


fire mages:

as a whole, none of the fire mages skills work as well together compared to an ice mage...


explosion: slow as hell, not half decent until lvl 18

compo:probably the worst mage atk given...

mist, not effective without a mob of monsters




and you know what, i feel like bashing on gaia for a little bit more (enters ******* mode)

first of all, doom is not an attack...its a support skill...i already stated that in this post...summon dragon, again is not an atk, its another supportive skill...

and yorue saying that fire and ice have just better elemental attacks? AND PRIESTS DONT HAVE A BETTER ONE?!?!?! duh, just look at it...they dont fare well at all vs any monster that isnt at the very least, weak to holy (solo)

and shining ray is a crappy crappy atk solo....ice strike is even stronger than ray, and yorue saying that it works well against all monsters? pff, cmon...

holy symbol does make them lvl quick, but it isnt as effective if youre solo now is it? it take sits best effect in a party that knows how to use it right...BUT WAIT!!! WERE TALKING ABOUT A SOLO PRIEST, WHICH MEANS HE DOSENT PARTY!!!!ZOMG!!!

and umm, fire mages are the fastest lvlers in the game (about the same as DKs) from about lvl 10x-12x...faster than priests....ice mages lvl the fastest from 80-100 again, faster than priests...

and who cares of he made doom work on lycans/macis and whatever, WELL WHOOP-DEE EFFING DOO...HE CAN MAKE DOOM WORK ON MONSTERS!!

that dosent mean its a "pwnage" skill

adn not to mention, it only works 90% of the time, not even garunteed...which makes it even less of a reliable skill....

that 113 priest vid was just a showoff vid, its not meant to show how trainign REALLY is, and how you are facing death with the very next hit everytime you train, if you really wanna see a priest training vid, and how risky it is to train, watch chellez's lvl 96 priest vid, THATS the vid you should be watching....

and yes, lycans, macis, were ALWAYS weak monsters =.=

and just to showoff a bit, can someone ks this please? because a priest sure cant...

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1530/maple0058an8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


im done with this thread

Wow, this post is about to make me cry. LOL, jk.
But it does make me feel like the character I've been leveling is just a big failure... Brightest future isn't all about damage. *runs*

All the characters have their pros and cons, so there is no sense in determining which is better.

[DarkPhive]

doom is soooooooooo overrated....i mean, noone actually uses it in training, just to show off....ZOMG PRIEST CUZ OF DOOM,that i cant take, what noobs!

[MagicalBow]

Doom is just for fun IMO
Using 5k for 6 mobs is a waste -_-;

[eefie]

bah. just go look at the 4th job video currently on youtube, and get dazzled by the archer skill Dragon Pulse, and the thief skill Assassinate. stop arguing about how good or bad mages are. go create other classes.


btw, Quantum Explosion owns.

[au2k5]

O.O;;

link plox!!!

[origamii]

So who here has actually used doom extensively?

If you were training on gk and you get stunned, thats like 1 or 2 elixers before you can get away. Doom it is what I do. Its also fun, but it seems most of you seem to forget about that.

All the classes are pretty good at 3rd job. I'd still stick with my priest.

[au2k5]

you wouldnt be able to doom the GK without gettign hit first, GKs have first strike >_>

and who said anyone wasnt having fun? this thread was based on which class ends up the best in the long run, not which class is more fun...dont make an insinuation on us forgetting about having fun, when youre posting in a thread that didnt ask about fun...

[eefie]

ends up the best?

in terms of training speed = fire mage
in terms of raw damage = ice mage
in terms of better mob control = er...fire mage
in terms of er...easier time finding a party o.0 = priest
in terms of survival = priest
in terms of hunting big game = ice mage (freeze pwn3d j00)


so its equal. XD

[pagan]

ends up the best?

in terms of training speed = fire mage
in terms of raw damage = ice mage
in terms of better mob control = er...fire mage
in terms of er...easier time finding a party o.0 = priest
in terms of survival = priest
in terms of hunting big game = ice mage (freeze pwn3d j00)


so its equal. XD

Since when is fire mage better in terms of training speed and mob control?

[au2k5]

they can kill entire maps in under 30 seconds.....

killing entire maps=faster exp....by far....

fire mages>priest>ice mages, in terms of exp

[pagan]

they can kill entire maps in under 30 seconds.....

killing entire maps=faster exp....by far....

fire mages>priest>ice mages, in terms of exp

poisoning to 1hp takes about 40s... 2.5% hp per second.

and as you go higher and higher lvs, It is still at 40s. While other class get faster and faster.

Also, fire mage not that welcomed in parties where you get 1.5x exp rate with holy symbol.

[eefie]

they can kill entire maps in under 30 seconds.....

killing entire maps=faster exp....by far....

fire mages>priest>ice mages, in terms of exp

poisoning to 1hp takes about 40s... 2.5% hp per second.

and as you go higher and higher lvs, It is still at 40s. While other class get faster and faster.

Also, fire mage not that welcomed in parties where you get 1.5x exp rate with holy symbol.


dumbass, they poison a whole map. by the time they reached the place they started at, the monsters ALL have 1 HP, as Ludi Maps are HUGE and it take like 1 minute to go to ALL platforms.

no other class can kill faster. besides, in 30 seconds, the monsters only have like ...10k HP? 2 explosions would kill them anyway. the training speed slows, but still remains one of the fastest of every class.

fore mages are better at mob control. why? you do see a whole mob of 10...vikings right? those are fairly common. tell me, which class can effectively kill all the vikings, along with all the rest in the map, all under 2 minutes? none except for the fire mage. just teleport in, poison mist, teleport out, go to next platform. you wont even take much damage. and 1 explosions, the vikings are down. such good mob control.

and fire mages are perfectly fine in parties. many people get fire mages in El Nath parties. much faster killing rate, thus more exp.

[pagan]

But that's not called mob control when you still take damage. An ice mage with maxed ice strike or a wknight with ice charge using charge blow or an archer using puppet, then eruption is better at mob control...

[eefie]

But that's not called mob control when you still take damage. An ice mage with maxed ice strike or a wknight with ice charge using charge blow or an archer using puppet, then eruption is better at mob control...


can ice mages, or snipers, or WKs kill the whole mapful of monsters faster than a fire mage? i doubt it. i classify a mob as the whole map of monsters. therefore, fire mages are better mob control.

[au2k5]

umm, its mob control when the mobs are being wiped out.....

do i have to get into another senseless argument?

[eefie]

umm, its mob control when the mobs are being wiped out.....

do i have to get into another senseless argument?


fire mages wipe out mobs faster, if they had poisoned the mob earlier, which they would have done if they had been training there for at least 3 minutes. so fire mages are better mob control. :D

[LifeRomance]

I choose i/l coz im an i/l.....

[Tharticus]

Kindly look at the last post date. It's 4 years since the last post.

[rasudoken]

How do people even find these threads.

[StormBreaker]

Unit: LifeRomance(54W136L)
Area: www.hidden-street.net
Mission: Revive a 3 or 4 year old topic
Elaboration: Find a topic long forgotten in the archives of the Hidden Street forums and revive it by making a weak post
Status: Accomplished - Some members irritated or amused, unit awaiting consequence

[FailFTW]

Necroed at a good time too! With the balance patch the cleric path utterly fails, completely losing out in damage and killing ability to the elemental mages.

Also, while 4th job I/L and F/P were very equal before, now they both are even more equal.