Ice vs. Fire vs. Cleric (Help on deciding, etc.)

[rasudoken]

FA can hit up to 3 enemies at once now.

Yes, we all know that. Thank you for sharing

[BALL]

You're welcome, rasudoken.

Oh and forgot to mention that the author completely isolated poison brace. This makes people assume lowly of F/P wizards, and that shouldn't be how it's done. Poison brace is actually useful if you know how to use it. I don't want to go into the details ATM but it's something to consider.

And this thread needs to be updated. Period.

[White Mage Abyss]

I agree, It's far too outdated to be a sticky, I wouldn't make a new one yet, unless all of the big bang has been accounted for, though.

[Avatarded]

I don't know that it's been mentioned, but the OP hasn't been edited to reflect the Maker ability neutralizes gear (farming by mob weakness) needs, unless your Lukless and need a lukless gear set.
Additionally nothing has been said to the functionality of Poison via damage over time, and Paralyze (like freeze) stopping enemies in their tracks while DoTs continue, giving you the ability to kill things vastly over-level.

[FailFTW]

The OP posted this in 2006 and is most likely long gone.

That said. If you make a cleric, you are making a SUPPORT CLASS. If you are that delusional and try to make it a damage class, you are a terrible person.
If you want damage, try the other two mage types, they will do more damage than a bishop with the same equips.

[Conrad Wen]

lol back in 2006..... wasnt that before 4th job came out??

[emailbox]

The OP posted this in 2006 and is most likely long gone.

That said. If you make a cleric, you are making a SUPPORT CLASS. If you are that delusional and try to make it a damage class, you are a terrible person.
If you want damage, try the other two mage types, they will do more damage than a bishop with the same equips.

You know... CBFrancisco is a Shadower, and he's got pretty good (as in GODLY) DPS...
I'll bet he could make a max-damage hitting Bishop (With Heal)

[bulmabriefs144]

The OP posted this in 2006 and is most likely long gone.

That said. If you make a cleric, you are making a SUPPORT CLASS. If you are that delusional and try to make it a damage class, you are a terrible person.
If you want damage, try the other two mage types, they will do more damage than a bishop with the same equips.

Even I knew this, back when I had a hp mage. That's why I made it that way, so it could take more hits without using pots. I still kept a few for stuff that 1/1'd you, but other than that, I could be a pretty good support class. My damage was crappy though, although it was getting better (for a priest).

Big Bang actually screwed me over. Yea sure, damage was more, but my MP eater relied wholly on damaging enemies (since mp recovery is gone, chairs give the rather useless 4 MP). Bye bye bossing support. Then once I got hacked I realized how damage worked, as equips suddenly mattered alot more (with basic wand, I was back to pre-BB damage, but monster HP was greatly changed. Being LUKless now means you gotta either be extremely lucky, and get maple gear from drops, or keep using the Maple Trade).

[FailFTW]

You know... CBFrancisco is a Shadower, and he's got pretty good (as in GODLY) DPS...
I'll bet he could make a max-damage hitting Bishop (With Heal)

He's still a terrible person for making a damage bishop.

[Magician1234]

But seriously if making a i/l easier to make it to 12x or isit f/p