Strafe vs SP and L7

[eefie]

Wow, either your an idiot our its my bad and i didn't make it clear. SP DECREASES YOUR NORMAL ATT TO 80%. The skills att is 50%. Look at it on hidden-street. >.> just like a lil kid.

for gods sake i did say it reduces skill attack to 50%. i never disputed your comment on normal attack being reduced to 80%. i just added on, since you didnt bother putting it. which hermit would use a normal attack anyway. geez.


and im little. got any problems with that? 13 is little btw.

[ExiledDragon]

I outdamage ALL lvl 80 hermits (whan i was lvl 80) i see. Plus i think it was someone in sleepywood who did the formula, and a lvl 150 low-dex hermit baaaarely beats a lvl 150 ranger. seeing as the difference between us get's bigger, i think it's safe to assume that hermits are weaker than us most of their career. Plus we do beat them in versatility, and mobbing.

[eefie]

I outdamage ALL lvl 80 hermits (whan i was lvl 80) i see. Plus i think it was someone in sleepywood who did the formula, and a lvl 150 low-dex hermit baaaarely beats a lvl 150 ranger. seeing as the difference between us get's bigger, i think it's safe to assume that hermits are weaker than us most of their career. Plus we do beat them in versatility, and mobbing.

oh yea, if a lvl 150 LOW dex hermit can BARELY beat a lvl 150 ranger, what about a lvl 150 sniper?


ta ta, hermits.

[Julliant]

I hate to burst your bubble(s), but Hermits do win us in damage, not yet at LV 80, hence you could win. But after LV 110, the difference gets VERY obvious. At LV 100, if you could get a good Metus (WA 105 and above), your damage is as good as a Hermit with decent equipment. If he's using Ilbis, WA 11 WG and all the other godly equipment, your screwed. And after that, you really screwed.

[eefie]

I hate to burst your bubble(s), but Hermits do win us in damage, not yet at LV 80, hence you could win. But after LV 110, the difference gets VERY obvious. At LV 100, if you could get a good Metus (WA 105 and above), your damage is as good as a Hermit with decent equipment. If he's using Ilbis, WA 11 WG and all the other godly equipment, your screwed. And after that, you really screwed.

lol. but bowmen can still do quite some damage. in fact, according to something you quoted from Asiasoft forums before, the hermit will only do like...1k damage more than Snipers and 2k damage more than Rangers. that isnt really large at level 120 is it?

[Julliant]

But those calculations did not take into account these factors:

Monster Defence, which Shadow Partner ignores.
Availability of godly equipment, which is rare for bowmen.
Higher critical rate for Hermits.

If your talking about a Green Snail, then yes our damage is comparable because our minimum is very stable, at LV 150, our minimum is around 2K, whereas Hermits get ridiculous numbers.

Mushmom, yea we've got a chance.

Lethal Squids? Their defense is a whopping 800. OMFG 800! Those squids scrolled their shells with 10 10% Overall DEF scrolls. That reduces my damage range by 400, which means my critical does 800 HP less... multiply that by 4 for Strafe.

[ExiledDragon]

true, that our godly equpment is rare, but not impossible to find. While hermits do defeat us in high defense monsters, i've noticed that our versatility is a BIG difference. Outwardy, no you're correct we are weaker. But we are better mobbers and inferno helps us against ice monsters. (Before you start yelling at me, because there are a lack a ice monsters, remeber that ice monsters HAVE to be release for the fire mages, so therefore eventually it's logical to assume that we'll have more ice monsters) They are faster, to avoid damage, but that's why we have puppet, and hawk. To avoid the damage in the first place.

plus thinking about all those low dex sins (Because it's the low dex sins that outdamage us early, not the normal build) i'm a bit worried for their fourth job opportunities. If we get a skill that replaces strafe, we are happy because means we get a ridiculous raise in damage. We don't suffer, because for the most part all rangers follow the same build. But chances are sins will get a replacement lucky 7, and at that point, unless it has as good a formula as the original lucky 7, they're screwed, and will be outclassed by every other class. (except mages)

[Torrisrox]

Lemme just say this...archer>sin at mobbing

sin>archer at high def monsters

sin>archer at buff skills

sin>archer party skills


o.O...why am I making a xbowman again?

[MagicalBow]

Lemme just say this...archer>sin at mobbing

sin>archer at high def monsters

sin>archer at buff skills

sin>archer party skills


o.O...why am I making a xbowman again?

Cause Archer > Sins in looks

[eefie]

Lemme just say this...archer>sin at mobbing

sin>archer at high def monsters

sin>archer at buff skills

sin>archer party skills


o.O...why am I making a xbowman again?

Cause Archer > Sins in looks

Sins are too popular. you want to be different.

Archers are more challenging to play.