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    Quote Originally Posted by godshoot View Post
    Inifinite magic won't help in the long run. At maxed lvl infinite mp last for 40 seconds and has a cooldown of 10minutes.

    Bishop still dominate the skelegon map by spamming genesis, it is way cheaper and faster then normal training at skelegon.

    SR and IS has major difference if the range and freezing ability are only in IS but not SR.
    Long run ? I can zip around and clear an entire map with infinite mp and meteo and more monsters, wasting less pots, than you can with a few pots and genesis. Bishops dominate the skelegon maps because they're holy weak and even SR does a lot of damage.

    As for that last part, you basically repeated what I said, so I'm not really sure what you're getting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyflier0 View Post
    i dont think it's over powered

    the mages have to double that mp usage but only get a 35% boost so it doesn't seem worth it in my opinion
    It is definitely worth it. You get a 35% bonus on every skill you have.
    Thunder bolt goes from 60-81 atk
    cold beam goes from 100-135 atk
    fire arrow goes from 120-162 atk
    ice strike goes from 90-121.5 atk
    explosion goes from 120-162 atk
    shining ray goes from 105-141.75 atk

    AND the 4th job attacks go from 570 to like 770 atk.

    Do you see my point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magefreak6x View Post
    I don't think it is overpowered, since clerics are kind of screwed over on power in second job. Also, a correction. Ice strike uses 50 MP without element amplification, not 100, so when element amplification is maxed, it uses 100 mp, not
    200.

    EDIT: The above is the same for explosion for fire mages also. And priests don't get element amplification.
    Thx Editted.

    Sorry for double posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magefreak6x View Post
    It is definitely worth it. You get a 35% bonus on every skill you have.
    Thunder bolt goes from 60-81 atk
    cold beam goes from 100-135 atk
    fire arrow goes from 120-162 atk
    ice strike goes from 90-121.5 atk
    explosion goes from 120-162 atk
    shining ray goes from 105-141.75 atk

    AND the 4th job attacks go from 570 to like 770 atk.

    Do you see my point?
    I think the problem is that the base damage of meteo is lower than genesis even without amp and during third job the base of Explosion overpowers the base damage of SR without amp as well. In 4th job the range/base damage changed dramitically compared to 3rd job skills.
    Also another problem is the mp cost, IMO wasting 7k mp for each Meteo/Blizzard is not worth the 100 extra base attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElderDragon View Post
    Long run ? I can zip around and clear an entire map with infinite mp and meteo and more monsters, wasting less pots, than you can with a few pots and genesis. Bishops dominate the skelegon maps because they're holy weak and even SR does a lot of damage.

    As for that last part, you basically repeated what I said, so I'm not really sure what you're getting at.
    I meant every 1 hour you get 40sec X 6 of infinite magic. Which adds up to 4minute/hour, therefore in this small amount of time you can spam the ultimate but the 56 minute your will be burdened with pot cost as an AM. Priests on the other hand can spam genesis easily without worrying about pot usage and they also have infinite mp as well.

    As for the last part, what i am saying is that if IS can freeze and have a bigger range then SR, then they are not so similar afterall right?

    Hopefully this clears my argument up a little. Sorry for the confusion.

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    Stupid Question: What exactly does Genesis do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinpenguin View Post
    Stupid Question: What exactly does Genesis do?
    Shining ray on steroids.

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    I see....my priest friend said that Genesis used 7k MP and 1hko'd everything in the map that your in. What a liar (my friend) ...T_T"

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    In a way yes...Cause look at it...F/P should have the most damage and etc.But in another way no, cause Clerics deserve to do some massive damage too.

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    I have to agree with the people who say that Genesis is perfectly fair. Considering the mp cost, it's quite clear that these three attacks aren't meant to be spammed or even used all that often. In fact, it seems like it's mostly meant to be used with infinite mp, which all magicians get. This means that it doesn't really matter if the mp cost is doubled with amp, and f/p and i/l end up getting higher base attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinpenguin View Post
    I see....my priest friend said that Genesis used 7k MP and 1hko'd everything in the map that your in. What a liar (my friend) ...T_T"
    Well, considering it's base attk is more than 6 times that of shining ray, it is certainly capable of 1hkoing everything in the map. It would depend on which map, though. Oh, and the cost is only 3500, not 7k.
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