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    XP 64bit is terrible, I used it for about a month and it was really hard to get anything to work on it.

    Vista x64 on the other hand has caused me not a single problem, and it's lightning fast for me. Firefox instantly loads, so does Windows Explorer and other mid-sized apps.

    Vista has a weird way of reporting free RAM. It always states I have less than 30% left, but in reality I'm only using around 20% of it. System has never bogged down with several apps and a game in the background. I have 4GB of RAM.

    Here are my top recommendations, these are pretty much very loved at the OCforums:

    WD Caviar Black series hard drives:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136320
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136319
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136283
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136284

    ASUS Top HD4850 (This guy always has some sort of discount on it, right now it just went up from $149.99 but I'm sure they're gonna put it back there for "New Year's discount!" or something like that)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121272

    Like F50 said, overclocking any Core 2 processor is really easy, even with the stock heatsink. The process you described is how overclocking used to be, but now most motherboards and processors are very OC friendly, with a C2 processor all you have to do is increase the Front Side Bus in your motherboard settings and test your overclock for stability and temperature. If it's unstable you just up the voltage a little and check your temperature. It's a fairly simple process, it takes time but it's easy.

    People are saying not to get this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115055
    Because it doesn't support Virtualization, whatever the hell that means.

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    Honestly that Virtualization doesn't seem too important after checking Intel's site... >_>;

    The motherboard I had seen in the original list seems to have looots of problems, google just pops up a ton of 'em, I mean it's cheap, but it makes me wonder if that's why. :S

    The Caviar's look nice and cheap.... way cheaper than anything else, and just as good O.o;
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    I have a Biostar motherboard, the Tforce and Tpower series are really good, the other ones are just crap.

    I just noticed you have PC8500 RAM in your wishlist. If you don't intend to do any overclocking, you should just stick to PC6400 RAM (DDR2 800). PC8500 boots up and works always at 800mhz, you have to set it to 1066mhz in the BIOS.

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    Oh I also noticed you lack a PSU in your wishlist.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139003

    That one. None other.

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    I believe my case here has a PSU and some fans in it o_o; I'll open it and check and post -back.

    Also, if I get better quality out of it, shouldn't I be overclocking? Or is it one of those things that I should avoid? I figure in 2~4 years it'll be worth going 64-bit, and nothing else (Especially with Windows 7 out), so at that point I'll want a new PC and whatnot, so if it'll last 2~4 years OCing than I will, but if it'll make it quit out in a few months, no thanks D= I've heard that it won't kill it fast with a lot of the newer ones though o_o;
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    Your case does have a PSU, but it's probably a very low quality one, and if it's an older case, it won't even have the required connectors for more modern systems. You need a decent PSU for the HD4850!

    Normal overclocking doesn't shorten the life of your components. My CPU can be overclocked from 3.0Ghz to 3.8Ghz for 24/7 use without reducing it's functional lifetime. Only extreme overclocks with high voltages will damage components. The PC8500 memory is in reality PC6400 memory, but it's been rated and tested to work up to a PC8500 overclock.

    Overclocking is great because you can get the same performance of a stock $900 CPU out of a $180 CPU.

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    8D That's amazing, simply AMAZING.

    I'm definitely going to plan on doing so then, and I won't bother going past a 3.0GHz if I can get up to even 3.5... that's awesome. :]

    I think the PSU in mine wasn't that great... the case is from last summer (not this summer past), and it's a 500w ATX Power Supply from Ultra (same as my case)

    I have room in it for 4 CD/DVD drives/whatever, 6 HDDs, and 2 FDDs which I'm trying to find out what the hell are right now (googles)

    Another thing, but I'm not sure if it's important is I have a "CPU Air Duct", at first I thought this would help, but now I'm wondering if this will hinder depending on where I put it...

    http://www.ultraproducts.com/product...&productID=473
    That's my exact case pretty much.
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    Oh the PSU is much better than I thought, it's still a little "cheap" though. Those air ducts rarely align themselves to the actual CPU socket, so I just remove them.

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    If it ends up aligning, is it worth it? Since PC fans are cheap and sold everywhere I was going to try a few things to keep it uber cool (I saw some interesting stuff!) on my desk.

    In any case, I guess I'll have to wait to get the mobo to see if it lines up.
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    They aren't too good, since what you really want is good airflow.

    You need to move as much air as you can through your case, stagnant air just causes more heat.



    So adding 3 intake fans and just 1 exhaust fan isn't going to help much, you have to create a balance, and also decide what you prefer, higher or lower pressure. A low pressure will "suck" air into the case, which also sucks in a lot of dust, and a high pressure will "squeeze" all the air out, with less dust but more chance of stagnant air.

    High = More intakes than exhaust
    Low = More exhaust than intake

    CPU coolers are the best option for cooling your CPU, but you have to consider your case. I use the Tuniq Tower, which is awesome, but it's huge. Might not fit in your case.

    I would like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835207004

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