Last time I discussed religion on HS I think I made a member leave. o_o
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I believe what I believe in (well not completely yet, I'm still seeking out truth) because I think it answers the questions I have about life well. Some of my questions are "why does joy exist side-by-side with sadness/corruption in the world?", "what is my purpose in living?", and "Why is the world this way?"
Answers like "because it is" don't cut it... there has to be a logical explanation for every question. So far my beliefs have stood up to all of my questions pretty well. I am starting to believe that my beliefs are the truth, but I'm still not sure, I'm still searching for something else. I believe in science :) in fact I love just about every subject in the natural science division (except chemistry). Science doesn't answer the questions that mean the most in my life though so it cannot be my system of belief. I've tried it, it failed, I looked and found something else that answered what science couldn't, now I'm seeing if it can stand up to all I have to ask till I am completely satisfied that I have found truth :).
Last time I discussed religion on HS I think I made a member leave. o_o
ragequitwut
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"Discussion of organized religion, the existence of God(s), and theism in general"
p sure theism in general covers everything you're posting about.
I'M SORRY IF AN ENTIRE THREAD COVERING JUST ABOUT ALL THE SEMANTICS OF ANY RELIGION EVER DISCUSSED ON THIS BOARD IS JUST NOT CONTRIBUTING. I GUESS I'LL JUST LEAVE NOW SINCE 82 PAGES (817 POSTS) OF RELIGIOUS DISCUSSION ISN'T AT ALL HELPFUL TO THIS 3 PAGE THREAD HERE.
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It's quite hilarious how fast serious discussions fall here.
I want to join in this one so lets use the other thread so it doesn't get bombarded with unrelated posts.
This is a very ignorant post with all due respect. I dont mind atheists, but at least know religion before saying something.
Government keeping order and religion are very different things. It encourages positive behavior. Thats what the world need more of.
Religion isnt a cause of every war. In fact it hardly is ever a legitimate reason. Human nature is. Religion is just an excuse. Crusades? Gold and glory. God is merely an excuse. If one knows their own religion, they would know that war is wrong. Its a basic fundamental to all 3 religions, harming others=wrong,. Al Queda and other religious extremists are the minorities. They do not know what their religion is about.
Religion isnt for weak people. Its guidance on how to live everyday right. Everyone needs some form of guidance in their lives. No one is perfect. If you can find guidance elsewhere fine. But again, it isnt for weak people.
I'd like to point out that religion and organized religion are too things and you don't need one to have the other.
You can just as easily be religious in your own right without going to some church or something.
I'd further like to point out that for example killing the arch duke and starting a war is not 'religion' motivated in any way. Saying"EVERY" war is started that way is ignorant. Saying some are, or that they spark violence is different.
You're wrong. It's both. While religion may provide guidance, most religious people belong to an organized religion, a church of sorts. Organized religion tends to not preach guidance, but tends to simply lead you. Organized religion tends to point things out such as "Do this to get this" or "Live like this, spend your time doing these things". Organized religion says "Build a house to help the poor", religion says "help the poor". The difference being that organized religion tends to group people, as a hive. Religion tends to say go out there and be the best you can be, but don't forget the small people.
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okay, it is guidance. great, i am with pyrofyr 100% in this discussion.
Religions have fought for a long time over which one is the correct one.
let me say this, no matter what religion, or non religion you are, everyone goes to hell. ask me why, and I will tell you.
You do not need religion to find guidance, as you said, but then your last sentence "it isnt for weak people." it seems that you are implying that people of no religion are weak.
one more thing, you failed to answer my question on Darwinism versus Creationism
Darwinism =/= big bang. STOP COMPARING THE TWO GODAMN THEORIES EVERYONE
Now, again, instead of thrashing Darwinism, can you supply some concept, or idea of why creationism happened? this is the third time I have asked this.
Darwinism is based on visual evidence. It has a comparison between skeletal fossils of the dinosaur period to today, there is more proof of concept for Darwinism then Creationism
Did Evolution happen? possibly, maybe not. Did creationism happen? possibly, maybe not.
as for everyone going to hell:
if you are Christian, you go to hell because another religion believes you will, for not being of that religion, and vice versa.
I agree, organized religion and religion are two different things. I am definitely not disagreeing with you there. Read my post on other religion thread.
Again, religion is most of the time merely an excuse to start a war. Which war was actually caused by religion by itself? None. There always were other factors, or religion was simply an excuse.
I dont know what church you have been to. Preachers a lot of times just set guidance for people on certain topics. Yea, it sounds like they are demanding that you do something, but at the end of the day, you choose to follow.You're wrong. It's both. While religion may provide guidance, most religious people belong to an organized religion, a church of sorts. Organized religion tends to not preach guidance, but tends to simply lead you. Organized religion tends to point things out such as "Do this to get this" or "Live like this, spend your time doing these things". Organized religion says "Build a house to help the poor", religion says "help the poor". The difference being that organized religion tends to group people, as a hive. Religion tends to say go out there and be the best you can be, but don't forget the small people.