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    Icon1 Is Bowmaster still the best bowman bossing class after Mercedes ?

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    The problem with doing this is you need to consider:
    - Damage of the skills
    - Additional damage from other skills (e.g. Mercedes have Spirit Surge in Second Job and Ancient Warding in Fourth Job, while Bowmasters have Advanced Final Attack, Spirit Link (I think) and much greater critical chance and damage)
    - Speed of the skills -> See how many times you can cast those skills over a minute to get the DPM, then divide that by 60 to get DPS.

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    hmm... then it's difficult to compare now :(

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    The two automatic skills are designed to be as equal to each other as possible, but Mercedes has much, much better mobbing capabilities.
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    Mercedes
    Base Crit: 5%, 120-150%
    Sharp Aim: 40% crit chance
    Spirit Surge: 15% damage, 15% crit chance
    Physical Training: 30 Dex
    Ignis Roar: 40 att
    Ishtar's Ring: 112% (lvl 32)
    Ancient Warding: 32% Damage
    DB Mastery: +71% Mastery, 32 Att, 16% Min Crit
    AFA: 21 Att, 70% chance of activating 107% damage 2x
    Defense Break: 44% chance of ignoring def

    Adding SE stats since we're also assuming CO.
    21% Crit Rate, 32% Max Crit Damage

    That's an 81% chance to do a crit of 136-182%
    That's equal to adding 47.8% damage.

    They also gain 47% damage from buffs, as well as 93 att stackable with buffs, 44% chance to ignore def, and 30 dex.

    Not counting the ap, ignore pdr, att and mastery buffs, they get about 487% damage for every 2 shots of Istar's Ring, as well as an average of about 150% damage every two hits from AFA.
    Including crits, that's 221%.


    Bowmaster
    Base Crit: 5%, 120-150%
    Critical Shot: 40%
    PT: 30 Dex
    Concentrate: 20 att
    BMastery: +71% Mastery, 32 Att, 16% min crit damage
    Sharp Eyes: 21% crit rate, 32% max crit damage
    Cane: 256%
    Istep: 42 Dex
    Spirit Link: 16% damage
    AFA: 21 Att, 72% chancee to do 214% damage.
    MMS: Ignore 29% of def

    BM Has a 66% chance to do 136-182% crit damage, which is about +39% damage every hit.
    That's about 413% damage for every hit of hurricane.
    AFA does (on average) 154%, and 214% with crits.

    Mercedes: 487% per "hit", with 221% AFA.
    +30 Dex
    +93 Att
    44% Chance to ignore def

    BM: 413% per hit, with 214% AFA.
    +72 Dex
    +73 Att
    Ignore 29% Def

    Keep in mind I'm working this out roughly and late, but I hope it still gets the point across.
    Skills aren't exactly what they seem, and you need to take the whole class into consideration, because Mercedes still comes out on top for single target dps.

    There's no competition for mobbing and mobility; Mercedes has that completely topped.


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    (Godammit, my post got swallowed up)

    You're also forgetting Elf Healing, which makes Mercedes way efficient in terms of pot use, assuming you have a break to use it. Then there's all the support abilities like Aqua Shield. And it's way better in terms of.... hair.

    What? Mercedes hair colors are superhawt.
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    Rip initial post.

    Elven healing is only good early game unless you don't get hit much by abusing invincible frames and don't get hit much
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    well..thanks for that after mercedes is released, my bowmaster is dumped @@ i trained so hard while playing hunter but after legends patch, i found that mercedes's really far better and strong than bm which made me tears -,- skills, damage, all all all better far more better

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