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[FanOfKOTOKO]

The preorder page on GameStop hints that preordering the game grants you the "Premium Expansion Pack;" if that's true, getting premium on preorder is pretty nifty.

[Omar Ranger]

Battlelog is a laggy, glitchy, failing, constantly updating piece of crap and you all know it.

Everything EA is doing screams terrible business sense. They're constantly alienating their playerbase and just driving more of the same will not bring players back.

[Bishopz]

I'm assuming the preorder is terrible guns and some maps.

[Watashi]

joey tribbiani is in the game

[ithrow4luk]

so I was cleaning out my gmail for the first time in forever and skimmed across an email saying "Battlefield 3 is here"

heuheu

[Wyatt]

I'm assuming the preorder is terrible guns and some maps.

Terrible maps and some guns*

Battlefield series has always done guns pretty well.

[Bishopz]

I'm just saying, all it was last time was a semi auto sniper and a pretty weak lmg. The only thing decent was the shotgun.

[Dae314]

As far as graphics changes go, it's rather hard to spot, but there are differences. It's nothing like the jump between BC2 and BF3 though.

Some major things I saw were:
- Ground and grass detail were a lot better
- Character models are noticeably better
- Cloth dynamics seem to have improved at least in single player for both the scraps of cloth hanging around and the clothes on the soldiers
- Destruction is looking a lot nicer :D
- Water physics seem to also have improved a lot

Some major things other people noted (not all "good"):
- Spotting might actually require some sort of plunger now :o. No more qq ^-^
- No suppression? <- I'd be very disappointed if that were taken out, I love suppression
- Although the characters are more detailed, the basic model is pretty much the same

What I'm waiting to find out:
- PB... (please please please be something better)
- Multiplayer gameplay
- Oculus Rift support?
- When's the first sale? ^-^
- Where's mah jets? What'd you change about em?